twilight2000-digest Tuesday, September 26 2000 Volume 1999 : Number 178 The following topics are covered in this digest: Re: twilight2000-digest V1999 #177 Re: twilight2000-digest V1999 #177 Private Subs for the bad guys? quote from funny red dawn review sheesh I shouldn't be so quick to hit send Re: sheesh I shouldn't be so quick to hit send Re: Private Subs for the bad guys? Re: Private Subs for the bad guys? UK SOURCEBOOK Re: UK SOURCEBOOK Re: UK SOURCEBOOK Re: UK SOURCEBOOK Re: quote from funny red dawn review Re: UK SOURCEBOOK Re: UK SOURCEBOOK Re: UK SOURCEBOOK ADMIN: DOMAIN NAME CHANGE Re: UK SOURCEBOOK Re: [t2k] Private Subs for the bad guys? Re: [t2k] Private Subs for the bad guys? Mime-Version: 1.0 T2K Computer Game Locations of military bases Re: Locations of military bases Re: Locations of military bases Re: Locations of military bases Re: Locations of military bases Re: Locations of military bases Re: Locations of military bases Re: Locations of military bases Re: Locations of military bases ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:13:20 EDT From: GDWGAMES@aol.com Subject: Re: twilight2000-digest V1999 #177 > Loren, since its the current topic of discussion, can you shed any light on > the "Great Game" and how it worked? Not much. Frank dashed off some mechanics and we started playing. Frank fine-tuned the rules as we played, and usually had a different set of economics rules each week. What specifically do you want to know? LKW *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 09:59:12 -0500 From: Rob Barnes Subject: Re: twilight2000-digest V1999 #177 Well, I was mainly curious as to what a typical turn was like. What sorts of decisions did the players make and how were the results presented? If the turns represented 5 or 10 years, how were more immediate events like wars and economic crises determined? Were there any results that were unsatisfying? It sounds like an interesting way to generate a background history. I have heard several members of this list mention updating the Twilight:2000 background to a more current level ("Twilight:2010", I guess); it seems like something along the lines of the "great game" would be an interesting way to achieve that. - -Rob GDWGAMES@aol.com wrote: > > Loren, since its the current topic of discussion, can you shed any light > on > > the "Great Game" and how it worked? > > Not much. Frank dashed off some mechanics and we started playing. Frank > fine-tuned the rules as we played, and usually had a different set of > economics rules each week. > > What specifically do you want to know? > > LKW > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com > with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:08:49 +1000 From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie" Subject: Private Subs for the bad guys? FACATATIVA, Colombia (AP) -- In a scheme worthy of Jules Verne that awed even veteran naval officers, Colombian drug traffickers were building a sophisticated submarine to smuggle cocaine, reportedly with help from American and Russian criminals. Police stumbled upon the half-built submarine Wednesday night in a warehouse outside the capital, Bogota -- 7,500 feet up in the Andes mountains and 210 miles from any port. Even by smugglers' innovation standards, this was off the charts -- Verne could have called it ''20,000 Kilos Under the Sea.'' The 100-foot submarine could have crossed an ocean, surfaced off Miami or other coastal cities and surreptitiously unloaded its drug cargo. "In the 30 some-odd years I have been in law enforcement I have never seen anything like this,'' Leo Arreguin, the chief of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration in Colombia, said Thursday. "This is huge,'' Arreguin said. "We're talking about being able to load up to 200 tons of cocaine in this submarine.'' However, other officials put the cargo capacity much lower, but they also it could carry at least several tons. Top officials flocked to the warehouse Thursday to marvel at the lengths that Colombian drug traffickers, who supply more than 80 percent of the world's cocaine and a rising share of its heroin, go to export their illicit products. Police were led to the find by suspicious area residents, who had seen Americans hanging around the warehouse, located in a cow pasture off a highway near the suburb of Facatativa. When police arrived, there was no one around. Surveillance cameras had been placed on the roof. No arrests have been made. "This is very high tech,'' said Colombian Navy Capt. Ismael Idrobo, gazing up at the reddish sub, which stood in three sections on lengths of railroad track. "Look at the rudders and the pressurized double hull. This could easily travel 100 meters (yards) under the surface of the ocean.'' Navy Capt. Fidel Azula, a former submarine captain and member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said even the Colombian navy lacked the knowledge to build such a vessel. "This is unmistakably of superb naval construction,'' he said. Arreguin said seized documents, including blueprints, contained Russian- and American-sounding names. There were indications Russian engineers were involved, including "a very professional engineer who has constructed submarines before,'' Arreguin said. The Russian Mafia has become increasingly involved in cocaine trafficking to Europe, Arreguin noted. Scattered about the warehouse were welding tools, propane tanks, hardhats, tool boxes and knee pads, and a Grainger Tools catalogue from the United States. A no-smoking sign and calendars featuring bikini-clad models hung on the walls. Previously, smugglers have outfitted passenger planes and ships to transport drugs, and even built some tiny fiberglass "submersibles'' to ferry drugs to a mother ship. But they were mere contraptions compared to this sub, which measured over 11 feet in diameter. Years ago, Colombians drug traffickers reportedly tried to buy, through intermediaries, a military submarine from the Kremlin's fleet as the Soviet Union collapsed. Theorizing why this sub was being built so far from the ocean, National Police Director Gen. Ernesto Gilibert said it was to conceal the operation and for easy access to high-grade construction materials. Officials believe the traffickers would have transported the sub in three sections to the coast aboard tractor-trailers. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 00:36:28 -0700 From: Peter Vieth Subject: quote from funny red dawn review I was looking at red dawn on imdb.com and found this which i thought was amusing: Most annoying are the A-team like action sequences in which the high school football team blows up Russian tank after tank, using grenades, missile launchers and machine guns like they had been using them since kindergarten. Instead of launching effective sabotage missions, or even trying to get the local community into an armed resistance, they prefer the romantic isolation of hiding in the hills and then running straight into a military installation and blowing up everything in sight. At one point 2 of our heroes single handedly destroy an entire camp: tanks, airplanes, bunkers -- by their Rambo-like bravado of running straight in and shooting at everything in sight. The highly-trained Russian military could demolish the US Army in days, but they couldn't stand up to these two high school football players! While not outgunning Soviet troops, our football heroes spend a lot of time crying. (If this is you want in a movie, I recommend "Heathers" instead.) This the director's token stab at "character development," and seems to be the only trick in his bag that doesn't involve missile launchers. The director is obviously trying to make a few points about gun ownership, patriotism, and so forth -- but unfortunately (for him) the whole movie operates at a third grade level. - -- Peter Vieth | fitek@ix.netcom.com | http://sanitarium.scizzors.net *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 00:41:42 -0700 From: Peter Vieth Subject: sheesh I shouldn't be so quick to hit send I found this too: I'm surprised this movie would gather any positive reviews. Its plots has holes big enough for the entire Red Army to walk through it, the acting is awful, and the characters stereotypical beyond belief (American: good. Red: bad). I caught myself rooting for the reds halfway through the movie, just before I fell asleep. Just wake me up when it's over... - -- Peter Vieth | fitek@ix.netcom.com | http://sanitarium.scizzors.net *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:48:11 +1000 From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie" Subject: Re: sheesh I shouldn't be so quick to hit send >I found this too: > >I'm surprised this movie would gather any positive reviews. Its plots >has holes big enough for the entire Red Army to walk through it, the >acting is awful, and the characters stereotypical beyond belief >(American: good. Red: bad). I caught myself rooting for the reds halfway >through the movie, just before I fell asleep. Just wake me up when it's >over... You could use that same review for any Tom Clancy book/movie! Jim L *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 22:36:56 +1000 From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie" Subject: Re: Private Subs for the bad guys? > ideas out of this, forget playing!> > >FACATATIVA, Colombia (AP) -- In a scheme worthy of Jules Verne that awed >even veteran naval officers, Colombian drug traffickers were building a >sophisticated submarine to smuggle cocaine, reportedly with help from >American and Russian criminals. Couldn't get that little sub out of my mind, I thought I'd throw some ideas at the list. - - The sub has been armed and is crewed by a mercenary naval group culled from the worlds navies. - - A terrorist organisation has used the sub to smuggle members of it's group into the host nation of the players unit. - - As above but they decide to hijack the sub and bring in a viral/nuclear/chemical doomsday device. - - As above but the Organitskya (Russian Mafia) decides to renege and take the sub back rather than accept payment for it's help in building it. - - As above but the Triads send in a hit team to knock out this threat to their heroin trade when the PCs are investigating/attacking/blundering onto the sub. - - As above but the Colombian government discovers the sub and sends in a special forces unit to destroy it rather than be embarrassed in the international media. - - As above but corrupt elements in the army tip off the Cartel and they are ready (but unaware of all the other strike teams converging on the sub!) - - As above but a rival organisation in the PCs host government send in their own team but due to the secretive nature of the business the players are unaware of their presence, they may be used as duex ex machina or need rescuing. - -As above but the US DEA sends in agents at the same time to investigate worrying rumours about some new type of drug smuggling device. These agent(s) have infiltrated the Cartel and may be of use to the PCs if they can make the PCs aware of them without blowing their cover. - - As above but a rival cartel sets an ambush for the sub builders. - - As above but the US experts used in the sub's construction turn out to members of some wierd doomsday cult, if they can get their hands on the weapon they will attempt to use it (the old 'just when you thought it was over' trick) - - As above but when your PCs are inextricably entangled in this mess their host organisation asks for a sitrep. When informed of the weapon a message comes back some time later informing the crew that they've scrambled an ArcLight strike against the area. There's your hackneyed-but-still-fun 'race against the clock' element. - - As above but when the doomsday cult is revealed, one (or more) of the PCs significant other/relations/war buddies/school friend/relation seperated at birth (etc etc) turns out to be a member. The PCs must capture this person without hurting them so they may be de-brainwashed. (Of course they feel no compulsion about hurting the PCs!) Adventure locals: The mountain warehouse/stronghold A convoy of trucks moving the sub down twisty mountain roads in steamy Columbia A Caribbean island sub-base (It's a must!) Jim L *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 07:37:57 -0500 From: Rob Barnes Subject: Re: Private Subs for the bad guys? Some of you might find this site interesting... http://www.ussubs.com - -Rob Jim & Peta Lawrie wrote: > > >ideas out of this, forget playing!> > > > >FACATATIVA, Colombia (AP) -- In a scheme worthy of Jules Verne that awed > >even veteran naval officers, Colombian drug traffickers were building a > >sophisticated submarine to smuggle cocaine, reportedly with help from > >American and Russian criminals. > > Couldn't get that little sub out of my mind, I thought I'd throw some > ideas at the list. > > - The sub has been armed and is crewed by a mercenary naval group culled > from the worlds navies. > - A terrorist organisation has used the sub to smuggle members of it's group > into the host nation of the players unit. > - As above but they decide to hijack the sub and bring in a > viral/nuclear/chemical doomsday device. > - As above but the Organitskya (Russian Mafia) decides to renege and take > the sub back rather than accept payment for it's help in building it. > - As above but the Triads send in a hit team to knock out this threat to > their heroin trade when the PCs are investigating/attacking/blundering onto > the sub. > - As above but the Colombian government discovers the sub and sends in a > special forces unit to destroy it rather than be embarrassed in the > international media. > - As above but corrupt elements in the army tip off the Cartel and they are > ready (but unaware of all the other strike teams converging on the sub!) > - As above but a rival organisation in the PCs host government send in their > own team but due to the secretive nature of the business the players are > unaware of their presence, they may be used as duex ex machina or need > rescuing. > -As above but the US DEA sends in agents at the same time to investigate > worrying rumours about some new type of drug smuggling device. These > agent(s) have infiltrated the Cartel and may be of use to the PCs if they > can make the PCs aware of them without blowing their cover. > - As above but a rival cartel sets an ambush for the sub builders. > - As above but the US experts used in the sub's construction turn out to > members of some wierd doomsday cult, if they can get their hands on the > weapon they will attempt to use it (the old 'just when you thought it was > over' trick) > - As above but when your PCs are inextricably entangled in this mess their > host organisation asks for a sitrep. When informed of the weapon a message > comes back some time later informing the crew that they've scrambled an > ArcLight strike against the area. There's your hackneyed-but-still-fun 'race > against the clock' element. > - As above but when the doomsday cult is revealed, one (or more) of the PCs > significant other/relations/war buddies/school friend/relation seperated at > birth (etc etc) turns out to be a member. The PCs must capture this person > without hurting them so they may be de-brainwashed. (Of course they feel no > compulsion about hurting the PCs!) > > Adventure locals: > The mountain warehouse/stronghold > A convoy of trucks moving the sub down twisty mountain roads in steamy > Columbia > A Caribbean island sub-base (It's a must!) > > Jim L > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com > with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:53:23 EDT From: Calibur1@aol.com Subject: UK SOURCEBOOK Can someone clear this up for me? Is there, or has there ever been, a Twilight:2000 sourcebook detailing the UK? *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 02:14:44 EDT From: Damage169@cs.com Subject: Re: UK SOURCEBOOK Calibur1@aol.com writes: > Can someone clear this up for me? Is there, or has there ever been, a > Twilight:2000 sourcebook detailing the UK? I've never seen any mention of anything ever being published by GDW or 3W, but there may have been an article in one of the issues of Challenge Magazine. It's been a good while since I've read through them, so I can't be sure. I know there is a supplement called "Rough Guide to the UK" published for R. Talsorian's rpg "Cyberpunk" if that's what you're thinking of, but it has nothing to do with T2K. Doug G. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 00:20:47 -0600 From: Tim Walker Subject: Re: UK SOURCEBOOK Calibur1@aol.com wrote: > > Can someone clear this up for me? Is there, or has there ever been, a > Twilight:2000 sourcebook detailing the UK? > The Survivors Guide To The UK... yeah they produced a sourcebook detailign what had happened to England. Sorry I'm not going into greater detail but I'd have to go dig mine up for more info. T.R. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 17:22:02 +1000 From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie" Subject: Re: UK SOURCEBOOK >Can someone clear this up for me? Is there, or has there ever been, a >Twilight:2000 sourcebook detailing the UK? I've got the version 1 "Survivors Guide to the United Kingdom" (0528). It's ISBN 1-55878-009-2 It does not cover any of Ireland though. Jim L *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:33:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bjorn Nilsson Subject: Re: quote from funny red dawn review Sure, that movie is kinda wack but also a bit "pastisch" of the kind of paranoia that was common in a lot of that kind of cold war films/books/etc. Besides, it's got this really good quote (Our "heroes" are about to execute a russian POW) "But, if we kill him what's the difference between us and them???" "We LIVE here!" /Bjorn *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 10:07:17 EDT From: MOrab46019@aol.com Subject: Re: UK SOURCEBOOK In a message dated 09/09/2000 2:02:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Calibur1@aol.com writes: << Can someone clear this up for me? Is there, or has there ever been, a Twilight:2000 sourcebook detailing the UK? >> Yes there is.I have one number 0528 Peter Phillipps. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:12:09 +0800 From: "Gloria" Subject: Re: UK SOURCEBOOK - -----Original Message----- From: Damage169@cs.com To: twilight2000@lists.imagiconline.com Date: Saturday, 9 September 2000 2:24 Subject: Re: UK SOURCEBOOK >Calibur1@aol.com writes: > >> Can someone clear this up for me? Is there, or has there ever been, a >> Twilight:2000 sourcebook detailing the UK? > >I've never seen any mention of anything ever being published by GDW or 3W, >but there may have been an article in one of the issues of Challenge >Magazine. It's been a good while since I've read through them, so I can't be >sure. > yes there was a UK sourse book, called a survivors guide to the UK had the effects of the war on england scotland and wales. even irland bit it was published for 1st edition, never 2nd use to own it so i know *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:56:59 EDT From: CardSharks@aol.com Subject: Re: UK SOURCEBOOK In a message dated 9/9/00 12:12:43 PM Central Daylight Time, g_rose@primus.com.au writes: << yes there was a UK sourse book, called a survivors guide to the UK had the effects of the war on england scotland and wales. >> If I remember correctly, one of the nukes hit Games Workshop's address. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 17:46:07 -0400 From: Rob Miracle Subject: ADMIN: DOMAIN NAME CHANGE On Friday, September 15, we will cease using the name "imagiconline.com" in favor of the much nicer "ient.com". 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Is there, or has there ever been, a > Twilight:2000 sourcebook detailing the UK? >> >Yes there is.I have one number 0528 Peter Phillipps. >*************************************************************************** YES there is in fact a "survivors guide to the United Kingdom". I have it and it is quite good. It gives the Uk's war history, current regional status and detailed order of battle. Brandon Snow bd_snow@hotmail.com >To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.imagiconline.com >with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:20:58 -0700 From: Snake Eyes Subject: Re: [t2k] Private Subs for the bad guys? At 05:08 PM 9/8/00 +1000, Jim & Peta Lawrie wrote: > ideas out of this, forget playing!> Check out this site and get one of your own: http://ussubs.com I particularly could do some damage with this bad boy: http://ussubs.com/Luxury_folder/lux.phoenix.html ~ Snake Eyes *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:29:01 -0700 From: Snake Eyes Subject: Re: [t2k] Private Subs for the bad guys? At 09:20 PM 9/20/00 -0700, I wrote: >At 05:08 PM 9/8/00 +1000, Jim & Peta Lawrie wrote: > > > >ideas out of this, forget playing!> > >Check out this site and get one of your own: > > http://ussubs.com > >I particularly could do some damage with this bad boy: > > http://ussubs.com/Luxury_folder/lux.phoenix.html Nevermind. I see that Rob Barnes has already offered up that link (and quite a while ago). Guess I should read ALL my messages before responding. Oh, well -- carry on. Nothing to see here. ~ Snake Eyes *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 03:03:28 -0700 From: Snake Eyes Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 - --=====================_2167733==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed You guys may (or may not) be interested to find that the Twilight: 2000 DOS PC game and manual are now available online for download. http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=1199 While it's no Quake III, it has substantial nostalgia value and I enjoyed the trip down memory lane. It runs fine from a DOS box inside Win9x -- no need to reboot to MS-DOS mode. You'll also probably need WinRAR to "unzip" the main archive file found inside the ZIP archive: http://www.rarsoft.net Enjoy. ~ Snake Eyes - --=====================_2167733==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" You guys may (or may not) be interested to find that the Twilight: 2000 DOS PC game and manual are now available online for download. http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=1199 While it's no Quake III, it has substantial nostalgia value and I enjoyed the trip down memory lane. It runs fine from a DOS box inside Win9x -- no need to reboot to MS-DOS mode. You'll also probably need WinRAR to "unzip" the main archive file found inside the ZIP archive: http://www.rarsoft.net Enjoy. ~ Snake Eyes - --=====================_2167733==_.ALT-- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:09:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Timothy P Moerke (Timothy Moerke) Subject: T2K Computer Game > You guys may (or may not) be interested to find that the Twilight: 2000 DOS > PC game and manual are now available online for download. > > http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?id=1199 > > While it's no Quake III, it has substantial nostalgia value and I enjoyed > the trip down memory lane. It runs fine from a DOS box inside Win9x -- no > need to reboot to MS-DOS mode. You'll also probably need WinRAR to "unzip" > the main archive file found inside the ZIP archive: > > http://www.rarsoft.net Actually, all I had to do was rename the tw2000.zip file (to tw2000.exe). Thanks for the link, by the way! T.P.M. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:36:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Timothy P Moerke (Timothy Moerke) Subject: Locations of military bases Does anyone know where I could find a listing of all the military bases in the USA and their locations? There's a small one not far from where I live that I have never been able to find on any map...I never would have known it existed had I not driven by it once. Thanks! T.P.M. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:15:47 +1000 From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie" Subject: Re: Locations of military bases >Does anyone know where I could find a listing of all the military bases in >the USA and their locations? There's a small one not far from where I >live that I have never been able to find on any map...I never would have >known it existed had I not driven by it once. Thanks! > >T.P.M. If I was you, I'd look out my window and se if there's a black car parked across the street! I know in Australia, land of the two week sports carnival, you find little transport company compounds and the like tucked into little back streets all over the place. I don't think the army knows where thay all are. Jim L *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:33:01 GMT From: "Brandon Cope" Subject: Re: Locations of military bases >From: Timothy P Moerke (Timothy Moerke) > >Does anyone know where I could find a listing of all the military bases in >the USA and their locations? There's a small one not far from where I >live that I have never been able to find on any map...I never would have >known it existed had I not driven by it once. Thanks! If it's not on a map, you weren't supposed to find out about it. Well, goodbye. I hope your 'accident' is painless. ;) A generous and sadistic GM, Brandon Cope http://www.geocities.com/copeab _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:06:30 GMT From: "Stephen Dragoo" Subject: Re: Locations of military bases >Does anyone know where I could find a listing of all the military bases in >the USA and their locations? There's a small one not far from where I >live that I have never been able to find on any map...I never would have >known it existed had I not driven by it once. Thanks! Try the public library in the 350's. Or try a web search. Unless it's something super-secret (like Brandon said, "nice knowing you..."), the actual location is far from difficult to discover. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:15:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Timothy P Moerke (Timothy Moerke) Subject: Re: Locations of military bases > If it's not on a map, you weren't supposed to find out about it. But if it's *that* secret, I don't think there would be an r/c airplane club that holds events less than a mile away, nor a vo-tech up the street, and in the middle (literally) of a suburb. We're not talking Area 51 here...it was very well-marked, and had a sign saying what it was at the gates (I don't remember what was on the sign). T.P.M. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:02:39 EDT From: OrrinLadd@aol.com Subject: Re: Locations of military bases In a message dated 09/26/2000 2:39:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, moer0019@tc.umn.edu writes: << But if it's *that* secret, I don't think there would be an r/c airplane club that holds events less than a mile away, nor a vo-tech up the street, and in the middle (literally) of a suburb. We're not talking Area 51 here...it was very well-marked, and had a sign saying what it was at the gates (I don't remember what was on the sign). >> Off on a tangent, somewhat: Not far from where I live, the local National Guard armory is located right next to the local Sewage Treatment plant. There used to be a big Army supply base located on the other side of the sewage treatment plant, but unfortunately(or fortunately) it closed down last year. What a way to spend a drill weekend! orrin *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: graebarde Subject: Re: Locations of military bases - --- Timothy P Moerke wrote: > Does anyone know where I could find a listing > of all the military bases in > the USA and their locations? http://www.army.mil/public/installations.htm Here's a starting place for the army daFORD __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:16:03 -0500 From: Rob Barnes Subject: Re: Locations of military bases I have a great map that does just that, published by the Dept of Defense. It's a little dated, so a lot of them might be closed by now, but there may be newer ones available. I think I got it through the Defense Mapping Agency. You should be able to find ordering info on the internet by searching DMA. Good luck. - -Rob "Timothy P Moerke (Timothy Moerke)" wrote: > Does anyone know where I could find a listing of all the military bases in > the USA and their locations? There's a small one not far from where I > live that I have never been able to find on any map...I never would have > known it existed had I not driven by it once. Thanks! > > T.P.M. > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:17:56 -0500 From: Rob Barnes Subject: Re: Locations of military bases Hey, I actually managed to find Mount Weather, and that's supposed to be secret. Of course, they DID have guns, so we didn't get too nosy. "Timothy P Moerke (Timothy Moerke)" wrote: > > If it's not on a map, you weren't supposed to find out about it. > > But if it's *that* secret, I don't think there would be an r/c airplane > club that holds events less than a mile away, nor a vo-tech up the street, > and in the middle (literally) of a suburb. We're not talking Area 51 > here...it was very well-marked, and had a sign saying what it was at the > gates (I don't remember what was on the sign). > > T.P.M. > > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com > with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@lists.ient.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of twilight2000-digest V1999 #178 *************************************