twilight2000-digest Monday, August 31 1998 Volume 1998 : Number 038 The following topics are covered in this digest: Re: PBEM Twilight T2000 - New scenario ideas Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: the WAR Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: the WAR Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Re: PBEM Twilight Sorry! Twilight like book Re: Twilight like book Re: OT: Email techniques (was: PBEM Twilight) Re: Twilight like book Re: Twilight like book Locations Re: Locations ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:36:18 +0100 From: johnson@hrem.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight I'm interested. I just want to know the story line and posts per week that you will expect. Andy Johnson *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:13:50 +0100 From: John.Guy@student.shu.ac.uk (John Guy) Subject: T2000 - New scenario ideas WANTED Armor 21 *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:29:57 +0200 From: Wolfgang Weisselberg Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight Hi! Trying to kill the keyboard, mitch@humanwaredesign.com produced: > I'm considering starting a PBEM campaign in mid-September. It will be > "Twilight Classic" - the old, post-holocaust scenario, updated slightly to > account for post-1991 events. Count me in. - -Wolfgang (weissel@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de) - -- PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:07:50 -0500 From: "Michael J. Domark, Jr." Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight I'm interestered. Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: > > Hi! > > Trying to kill the keyboard, mitch@humanwaredesign.com produced: > > I'm considering starting a PBEM campaign in mid-September. It will be > > "Twilight Classic" - the old, post-holocaust scenario, updated slightly to > > account for post-1991 events. > > Count me in. > > -Wolfgang (weissel@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de) > > -- > PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". > If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. > Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. > Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line > 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. - -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Der Mann Hat Einen Grossen Geist Und Ist So Klein Von Taten" ----------------------------------------------------------- The spirit of man is great, How puny are his deeds. -Anne Frank- Check 6 Member of VSQDN-541 Strike Force Mike Maj. "Milk Man" Alpha Squad, 2nd Wing, Ldr. ICQ-UIN: 7485255 ICQ Pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/7485255 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:09:16 -0300 From: wardlow Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight I'd be interested Vlad Michael J. Domark, Jr. wrote: > I'm interestered. > > Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > Trying to kill the keyboard, mitch@humanwaredesign.com produced: > > > I'm considering starting a PBEM campaign in mid-September. It will be > > > "Twilight Classic" - the old, post-holocaust scenario, updated slightly to > > > account for post-1991 events. > > > > Count me in. > > > > -Wolfgang (weissel@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de) > > > > -- > > PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". > > If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. > > Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. > > Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. > > *************************************************************************** > > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line > > 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > "Der Mann Hat Einen Grossen Geist Und Ist So Klein Von Taten" > ----------------------------------------------------------- > The spirit of man is great, How puny are his deeds. -Anne Frank- > > Check 6 Member of VSQDN-541 Strike Force > Mike Maj. "Milk Man" Alpha Squad, 2nd Wing, Ldr. > ICQ-UIN: 7485255 ICQ Pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/7485255 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line > 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:49:49 -0400 From: Scott David Orr Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight At 09:07 AM 8/27/98 -0500, Michael J. Domark, Jr. wrote: >I'm interestered. > Okay, guys, this is enough of this particular breach of netiquette. Do NOT quote an entire post, with .sig file, just to add one line of commentary. For that matter, no matter how much you're adding, don't quote the last poster's .sig file (or even his signature at the bottom, unless his name isn't clear from your "At...wrote" line at the top). In fact, delete anything that isn't necessary: that means that you should quote _only_ that text that you're replying directly too; in this case, that means you shouldn't have quoted anything. Having a lot of unnecessary text does two things: the people reading have to spend time scrolling through and reading it. Moreover, extra text adds to people's download times, and clogs up servers. How do to do this? The easy way is to SCROLL DOWN though the message and add your response after the quoted text--preferably, if you're going to comment on multiple points, with each comment added directly beneath the point in question. When you scroll down like this, you're forced to pass each bit of the quoted message, and you can readily see what needs to be deleted. Don't place your reponse at the top of your post--this isn't where most people look for it, and it will often cause people to scroll down looking for the response (especially a tiny "me too" comment) and the have to scroll back up. Yes, I know that some mailers are set to place your commentary at the top, but that's no excuse--you can change the default settings. One more comment (though not directed at this particular poster): those of you with MS Outlook are in many cases sending attachments with font information and stuff to the list; for those of us who don't have Outlook (that is, most of us) these attachments don't do anything for us, and we have to go into directories and delete them. You can turn this attachments off. Scott Orr *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:15:53 -0700 From: Peter Vieth Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight On the contrary, unless you are going to respond inside the quotes I think its a lot better to put the reply at the top. Especially if you have something short to say it can be a pain in the ass to find it in the quote. On the rest I agree. And it would be better if extra stuff like large signatures are removed. Scott David Orr wrote: > At 09:07 AM 8/27/98 -0500, Michael J. Domark, Jr. wrote: The easy way is to SCROLL DOWN though the message andadd your response after the quoted text - -- Peter Vieth Fitek@ix.netcom.com IGZ Handle: Fitek ICQ UIN: 3660410 Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:27:48 +0200 From: Wolfgang Weisselberg Subject: Re: the WAR Hi! Trying to kill the keyboard, firestorm_2020@yahoo.com produced: [big snip] > Cool. I never knew the full timeline, as I only played a few sessions Hah, that is the abbreviated abbreviation of the timeline :-) I had no wish to type in 4.5 pages (almost A4 format) of small print, nor do I wish to infringe copyrights, so I just picked some bits. > with a GM that preferred to leave his players somewhat in the dark. About the timeline? Sheesh, I know when the wall fell (the German one, of course), I would know if a nuclear war of that size had happened -- especially if I was in the military. (This timeline being twilight V1.0) - -Wolfgang - -- PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:27:49 -0500 From: "Michael J. Domark, Jr." Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight Heavy Sarcasm present below..... Scott David Orr, trying to figure out how to find the corner of the circular room he is in decided to babble this interesting piece of literature: > > At 09:07 AM 8/27/98 -0500, Michael J. Domark, Jr. wrote: > >I'm interestered. > > > Okay, guys, this is enough of this particular breach of netiquette. Do NOT > quote an entire post, with .sig file, just to add one line of commentary. > For that matter, no matter how much you're adding, don't quote the last > poster's .sig file (or even his signature at the bottom, unless his name > isn't clear from your "At...wrote" line at the top). In fact, delete > anything that isn't necessary: that means that you should quote _only_ > that text that you're replying directly too; in this case, that means you > shouldn't have quoted anything. So let's see what did we all learn from this real informative paragraph?? 1. Do NOT quote an entire post, with .sig file, just to add one line of commentary. 2. Don't quote the last poster's .sig file 3. delete anything that isn't necessary . . (my above comment wasn't necessary so it was deleted) 4. quote _only_ that text that you're replying directly too; in this case, that means _you_ shouldn't have quoted anything. OK.... So The _You_ is referring to _Me_. I find this a particular breach of netiquette and a personal attack onto myself. When correcting someone, or giving advice, it is human etiquette to _Tell_ the _Person_ directly, as not to embarrass same. i.e.. An obese man in a restaurant walks in with a rather large rip in his trousers which you can visually see his fecal stained under garments. Now you have a choice of one of three things: 1. ignore the large rip and soiled draws and continue eating 2. politely let the obese man with the large rip which you can see his brown stained underwear through, know that his pants have a large rip. 3. Jump up on the table, jump up and down to draw all the attention to yourself, Yell at the top of your lungs, "Hey everybody look at the Fat guys torn pants Yuck you can see his Bacon stained draws!" > Having a lot of unnecessary text does two things: the people reading have > to spend time scrolling through and reading it. Moreover, extra text adds > to people's download times, and clogs up servers. Like the above???? (see the fat man example) > How do to do this? How do you do this? seems to be more appropriate > The easy way is to SCROLL DOWN though the message and add your response > after the quoted text--preferably, if you're going to comment on multiple > points, with each comment added directly beneath the point in question. > When you scroll down like this, you're forced to pass each bit of the quoted > message, and you can readily see what needs to be deleted. > > Don't place your reponse at the top of your post--this isn't where most people > look for it, and it will often cause people to scroll down looking for the > response (especially a tiny "me too" comment) Ummmm.. How in the H E -double-hockey-sticks- do you get "me too" from "I'm interested?" (see my original post) > and the have to scroll back up. Yes, I know that some mailers are set to place > your commentary at the top, but that's no excuse--you can change the > default settings. Your forgetting one thing, excuses are like Anuses, everyone has one, regardless of what they think. (this is a fact of life) > One more comment (though not directed at this particular poster): Ok Bucko..... Then WHY didn't you address this to me personally in stead of broadcasting this to everyone on the list?? Not only making me look like a fool, but you as well? > those of you with MS Outlook are in many cases sending attachments with font > information and stuff to the list; for those of us who don't have Outlook > (that is, most of us) these attachments don't do anything for us, and we > have to go into directories and delete them. You can turn this attachments > off. YES SIR!!!! ( clicks boot heals together, thrusts right arm up and forward at a 30 degree angle ) (lots of sarcasm here) > > Scott Orr > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line > 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. (I purposely left the posters sig file attached to prove a point) Yes this posting is meant to be very sarcastic, and If I have offend anyone Oh well, that's life. If I'm removed from this list for this posting, that's no big deal either, I'm here, just like everyone else, to express their love/intrest/opinion about TW 2000, not to criticize the way other members of this list post. And if we can't express ourselves and share our ideas with one another, then I don't want any part of it. I'm 30 something years old and I don't need another mother. I've been on the list for a few months now and just lurked, up in till now, when someone stated that he was going to start an e-mail T2K game. I was in a hurry at the time when responding to the e-mail, so I might have not posted "Properly", but "Nobody" is prefect I have been letting my mail box fill with, everyone who is on the list and has posted in those few months, e-mail and I never once, ever, complained to anyone about the way they post. Donning the Asbestos suit and a Halon fire extinguisher Grab a clue and read the quote in my sig. - -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Der Mann Hat Einen Grossen Geist Und Ist So Klein Von Taten" ----------------------------------------------------------- The spirit of man is great, How puny are his deeds. -Anne Frank- Check 6 Member of VSQDN-541 Strike Force Mike Maj. "Milk Man" Alpha Squad, 2nd Wing, Ldr. ICQ-UIN: 7485255 ICQ Pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/7485255 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:48:36 -0400 From: Scott David Orr Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight At 05:15 PM 8/27/98 -0700, Peter Vieth wrote: >On the contrary, unless you are going to respond inside the quotes I think its >a lot better to put the reply at the top. Especially if you have something >short to say it can be a pain in the ass to find it in the quote. On the rest I >agree. And it would be better if extra stuff like large signatures are removed. > If you have something to say, and you're not replying directly to the quoted text, you should delete the quoted text (since it's obviously not necessary), not put your reply above it. Mind you, it's not simply a matter of practicality, but one of convention--when one person does it one way, and one person does it another, I don't know where to look for it, and have to waste time searching. Scott Orr *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:00:28 -0400 From: Scott David Orr Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight At 09:27 PM 8/27/98 -0500, Michael J. Domark, Jr. wrote: >Heavy Sarcasm present below..... > >Scott David Orr, trying to figure out how to find the corner of the >circular room he is in decided to babble this interesting piece of >literature: > I don't babble. > >So let's see what did we all learn from this real informative >paragraph?? > While the points I made could well have been abbreviated, I preferred instead to explain and justify them. Personally, I rather resent being told to do something without being told why. >OK.... So The _You_ is referring to _Me_. > >I find this a particular breach of netiquette and a personal attack onto >myself. > I think it's quite consistent with etiquette to direct criticisms directly toward the party for which they are intended, unless they're either quite insulting or inflammatory (I don't think these were) or the party in question is known to be "sensitive" (I didn't think you were). >When correcting someone, or giving advice, it is human etiquette to >_Tell_ >the _Person_ directly, as not to embarrass same. > Yes, if it's a unique individual mistake. But while the criticism was (properly) directed at you, the mistake you made had been made a number of times by other people on the list over the past couple of days, which meant that it could usefully be shared with everyone. >> Having a lot of unnecessary text does two things: the people reading have >> to spend time scrolling through and reading it. Moreover, extra text adds >> to people's download times, and clogs up servers. > >Like the above???? (see the fat man example) > No. Actually, the last time I made a similar post, to another list, the person to whom I had replied demanded, loudly and vituperatively, a "good" reason why he shouldn't send extra text, since anyone these days can buy a fast modem. Therefore, I provided the extra reasons this time. Scott Orr *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:20:07 -0300 From: wardlow Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight Please forgive me for sending the entire body of text again, but I did not want to lose the relevance of the missive. In my opinion, The man is only trying to keep a clean, tidy functional, interesting, game email area. I think that these guys who are providing this service deserve not oly our praise but our full support. They are trying to preserve our favorite game from an ignominious death and all we can do is snipe at them. It is up to us to be mature, reasoning adults and help them in their task, even if it means taking the extra time to prune the email replies before we send them back. It really is not that big of a request. They wouldn't have to take such a strict tone in their reminders if we didn't always give them flack each time they remind us. Vlad Scott David Orr wrote: > At 09:27 PM 8/27/98 -0500, Michael J. Domark, Jr. wrote: > >Heavy Sarcasm present below..... > > > >Scott David Orr, trying to figure out how to find the corner of the > >circular room he is in decided to babble this interesting piece of > >literature: > > > I don't babble. > > > >So let's see what did we all learn from this real informative > >paragraph?? > > > While the points I made could well have been abbreviated, I preferred > instead to explain and justify them. Personally, I rather resent being > told to do something without being told why. > > >OK.... So The _You_ is referring to _Me_. > > > >I find this a particular breach of netiquette and a personal attack onto > >myself. > > > I think it's quite consistent with etiquette to direct criticisms directly > toward the party for which they are intended, unless they're either quite > insulting or inflammatory (I don't think these were) or the party in > question is known to be "sensitive" (I didn't think you were). > > >When correcting someone, or giving advice, it is human etiquette to > >_Tell_ > >the _Person_ directly, as not to embarrass same. > > > Yes, if it's a unique individual mistake. But while the criticism was > (properly) directed at you, the mistake you made had been made a number of > times by other people on the list over the past couple of days, which meant > that it could usefully be shared with everyone. > > >> Having a lot of unnecessary text does two things: the people reading have > >> to spend time scrolling through and reading it. Moreover, extra text adds > >> to people's download times, and clogs up servers. > > > >Like the above???? (see the fat man example) > > > No. > > Actually, the last time I made a similar post, to another list, the person > to whom I had replied demanded, loudly and vituperatively, a "good" reason > why he shouldn't send extra text, since anyone these days can buy a fast > modem. Therefore, I provided the extra reasons this time. > > Scott Orr > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line > 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. > *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:37:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Cook Subject: Re: the WAR - ---Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: > Hah, that is the abbreviated abbreviation of the timeline :-) > I had no wish to type in 4.5 pages (almost A4 format) of small > print, nor do I wish to infringe copyrights, so I just picked > some bits. > Well, I just got a copy of the v. 2.2 rules yesterday and read the complete timeline. What're the main differences between them and the first edition rules anyway? Michael _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:46:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Cook Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight > Mind you, it's not simply a matter of practicality, but one of > convention--when one person does it one way, and one person does it > another, I don't know where to look for it, and have to waste time searching. > Sorry, not to sound overly rude or anything, but what's a few measly seconds anyway? Michael _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:36:55 -0400 From: Scott David Orr Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight At 08:46 AM 8/28/98 -0700, Michael Cook wrote: > >> Mind you, it's not simply a matter of practicality, but one of >> convention--when one person does it one way, and one person does it >> another, I don't know where to look for it, and have to waste time >searching. >> >Sorry, not to sound overly rude or anything, but what's a few measly >seconds anyway? > 5 seconds times 100 people on the list (for example) is 500 seconds of other people's time that you've spent to save 5 seconds of yours. Scott Orr *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:11:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Cook Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight - ---Scott David Orr wrote: > > At 08:46 AM 8/28/98 -0700, Michael Cook wrote: > > > >> Mind you, it's not simply a matter of practicality, but one of > >> convention--when one person does it one way, and one person does it > >> another, I don't know where to look for it, and have to waste time > >searching. > >> > >Sorry, not to sound overly rude or anything, but what's a few measly > >seconds anyway? > > > 5 seconds times 100 people on the list (for example) is 500 seconds of > other people's time that you've spent to save 5 seconds of yours. No, that's 5 seconds of each person's time. Now you're sounding like a communist (no offence I hope). "You've wasted 500 seconds of the people's time. Personally, when I joined this list I found that the extensive quoting helped me to quickly get involved in the conversation, whereas without it I would have been lost. Mike _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 02:44:17 +0200 From: Wolfgang Weisselberg Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight Hi! Trying to kill the keyboard, Fitek@ix.netcom.com produced: > On the contrary, unless you are going to respond inside the quotes I think its > a lot better to put the reply at the top. Especially if you have something > short to say it can be a pain in the ass to find it in the quote. On the rest I Well, and that is why you cut away anything you don't respond to! So you see the "something short faster. It does help using empty lines (like I did right here). You may notice that the quoted material is indented by "> ". Good mailers use these hints to colour that stuff depending on the level of the quote --- so you see it even faster. Anyway, it is more logical to have the question first and the answer following it (or the older comment followed by the newer comment). I doubt many of us live in a world where the answer arrives before the question ... > Scott David Orr wrote: > The easy way is to SCROLL DOWN though the message andadd your > response after the quoted text > I do belive that compressiong with "[this was said]" or even "[snip]" and "[...]" are useful to cut down the amount you quote. Doing what you did sounds very, very disrespectful of the author, and I am telling you the British way. I hope however that I simply misunderstood you. - -Wolfgang - -- PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 23:43:22 -0400 From: Scott David Orr Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight At 02:44 AM 8/29/98 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: >> Scott David Orr wrote: > >> The easy way is to SCROLL DOWN though the message andadd your >> response after the quoted text >> > >I do belive that compressiong with "[this was said]" or even >"[snip]" and "[...]" are useful to cut down the amount you >quote. Yes, absolutely. >Doing what you did sounds very, very disrespectful of >the author, and I am telling you the British way. I hope >however that I simply misunderstood you. > Perhaps, but I was actually trying ot be mild while at the same time complete, especially since gentle hinting is typically ignored; I certainly didn't cast any personal aspersions at the authoer. Scott Orr *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:51:25 -0400 From: Christopher Wilson Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight Michael Cook wrote: ) Personally, when I joined this list I found that the ) extensive quoting helped me to quickly get involved in the ) conversation, whereas without it I would have been lost. Don't forget the archive: ftp://ftp.mpgn.com/Gaming/Twilight2000/MailingListArchive/ Mike - -- Mike Wilson cmwilson@ntrnet.net Debian Linux! senseitachi wa boku wo fuan ni suru kedo sore hodo taisetsuna kotoba wa nakatta - --The Blue Hearts [shounen no shi] *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:22:19 +1200 From: "NaT" Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight NaT percival@ihug.co.nz Nathaniel Bacchus http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~percival - -----Original Message----- From: Scott David Orr To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM Date: Saturday, 29 August 1998 15:57 Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight While we are on the subject of email technique. Does anyone know how to change the rather ugly body of text you see above this line? I am using Outlook. I see that many people use short snazzy lines like: Trying to kill the keyboard, Fitek@ix.netcom.com produced: *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 07:30:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Cook Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight - ---Christopher Wilson wrote: > > Don't forget the archive: > ftp://ftp.mpgn.com/Gaming/Twilight2000/MailingListArchive/ > I've used that too. Michael Cook _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 07:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Cook Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight - ---Christopher Wilson wrote: > > Don't forget the archive: > ftp://ftp.mpgn.com/Gaming/Twilight2000/MailingListArchive/ > I've used that too. Michael Cook _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 07:30:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Cook Subject: Re: PBEM Twilight - ---Christopher Wilson wrote: > > Don't forget the archive: > ftp://ftp.mpgn.com/Gaming/Twilight2000/MailingListArchive/ > I've used that too. Michael Cook _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:52:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Cook Subject: Sorry! If everyone else received three copies of the same message, I apologize. There was some kind of error and as I tried to correct it, I inadvertently sent the message out three times. Again, I apologize for any inconvenience and wasted time this may cause. Michael Cook _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:25:01 +0800 From: Benjamin Barton Subject: Twilight like book Who has read "The untold story" by General Sir John Hackett *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:30:50 EDT From: Zek101@aol.com Subject: Re: Twilight like book i haven't. is it anygood? what twilight stuff do you have *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:07:38 +0200 From: Wolfgang Weisselberg Subject: Re: OT: Email techniques (was: PBEM Twilight) Hi! Trying to kill the keyboard, percival@ihug.co.nz produced: [--original message-- and mini-header on 5 lines] > While we are on the subject of email technique. Does anyone know how to > change the rather ugly body of text you see above this line? I am using > Outlook. > I see that many people use short snazzy lines like: > > Trying to kill the keyboard, Fitek@ix.netcom.com produced: Ah, that was probably me :-) Well, these lines seem to be an artifact of Outlook. From what I know[1] there are many email programs for Windows aviable. I have heard the names "Agent" and "Eudora" being spoken without utter disrespect. Some use "Netscape" as an email program, but I would not like a HTML-Browser mangling my email. But that is just me ... you may check them out if you like. [1] I use Unix in my daily life, especially Linux and Solaris. I don't touch Windows, I sometimes use DOS for some games. - -Wolfgang PS: wow ... bricktext, without even trying (hard). - -- PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:58:09 +0300 (EDT) From: Janne Kemppi Subject: Re: Twilight like book > Who has read "The untold story" by General Sir John Hackett > I have read both first edition "The Third World War" and its second edition "Third World War:The Untold Story". *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:24:04 EDT From: Zek101@aol.com Subject: Re: Twilight like book i love twilight 2000 *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:59:48 -0700 From: Hale Subject: Locations I'm in the Redding area, in Northern California(USA). Are any of you out there in this area? TTFN Ron Hale *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:38:10 -0700 From: Peter Vieth Subject: Re: Locations Heh... I might be in a year. I'm in Redwood City now. Hale wrote: > I'm in the Redding area, in Northern California(USA). > Are any of you out there in this area? > TTFN > Ron Hale > *************************************************************************** > To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line > 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. - -- Peter Vieth Fitek@ix.netcom.com IGZ Handle: Fitek ICQ UIN: 3660410 Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html *************************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list send mail to majordomo@mpgn.com with the line 'unsubscribe twilight2000' as the body of the message. ------------------------------ End of twilight2000-digest V1998 #38 ************************************