twilight2000-digest Wednesday, January 28 1998 Volume 1998 : Number 003 The following topics are covered in this digest: Re: The future of twilight 2000 Re: So far... Re: Maps Re: So far... Re: The future of twilight 2000 Re: Maps (Oh jeez!) Re: Maps Re: The future of twilight 2000 Re: So far... Pbem Re: Maps (Oh jeez!) SV: So far... Re: European Forces Request Re: So far... Re: Maps Re: Maps (Oh jeez!) Re: So far... Re: SV: So far... Re: So far... RE: So far... Re: So far... Re: So far... Re: So far... Re: So far... Re: So far... Re: So far... [none] Re: Satellite imagery RDF/King's Ransom One Point Safe/The Peacemaker FOR IMMEDIATE INFORMATION OF LISTOWNER Re: Satellite imagery Re: Satellite imagery Re: Mailing problems Re: Satellite imagery Re: Satellite imagery Re: Satellite imagery SV: Satellite imagery Re: Satellite imagery ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:09:22 -0800 From: Saul Basgen Subject: Re: The future of twilight 2000 >By the way, I'd like to ask the Mac users out there what document format >works for them... I have Word97, which isn't too common yet and I have >to convert to Word 6.0 usually... But it loses some neat formatting, and >even more when it is converted to HTML. Ms Word 5.1 is probably the best (eg. used by most Mac users)... I use Claris Works v 5, but can convert pee cee documents of whatever format.... Saul - ---- http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Twilight.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:04:29 EST From: Orrin Ladd Subject: Re: So far... In a message dated 98-01-22 22:11:59 EST, Saul writes: << Subj: So far... Date: 98-01-22 22:11:59 EST From: musides@earthlink.net (Saul Basgen) Sender: owner-twilight2000@Phaser.ShowCase.MPGN.COM Reply-to: twilight2000@MPGN.COM To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM Ok folks, that puts the list at six hitherto: Alan Chris Roger Pietu Daniel Myself Anyone else? ... Saul >> If you're talking about a web ring or something like that count me in. Orrin http://members.aol.com/OrrinLadd/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:45:20 -0500 From: Derek Klein Subject: Re: Maps At 06:10 AM 1/20/98 +0000, you wrote: >I have a favor to ask for those of you with a scanner and maps. For those of >you who do not know me, I run a PBEM TW2k game. I've recently taken on some >new players, some of whom do not have access to any of the maps. I was >wondering if it were possible for someone on the list to scan either the 1st >edition color map or the map in the 2nd edition book, and email it to me. >Please contact me by email. > >Thanks in advance, >Orrin Orrin- I have the map scanned. Let me know what format you want it in. I can convert it to: GIF JPEG BMP TGA TIF Also , it's a pretty large file (1688 x 1096) at about 1.8 Megs. If you need something smaller, I can adjust the propeties of the image. DK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:06:04 EST From: KAPPAABZ Subject: Re: So far... In a message dated 98-01-22 23:35:45 EST, you write: > If you're talking about a web ring or something like that count me in. > I think he was just talking about members on this list............................... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:06:03 EST From: KAPPAABZ Subject: Re: The future of twilight 2000 In a message dated 98-01-22 23:29:29 EST, musides@earthlink.net writes: > > Ms Word 5.1 is probably the best (eg. used by most Mac users)... I use > Claris Works v 5, but can convert pee cee documents of whatever format.. Speaking of MAcs...... Also a nifty litle program called maclink plus can convert a slew of those Mac'84 (sorry, i meant windoze 95) files to mac files, and vice-versa........ The program is included the mac OS's made by DataViz............ C, Mac by day, PC by night ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:06:07 EST From: KAPPAABZ Subject: Re: Maps (Oh jeez!) In a message dated 98-01-23 00:00:43 EST, you write: > I have the map scanned. Let me know what format you want it in. > oh jeez! did you get Tantalus' permission first? Oh jeez! Cause you know if you do that, The product line will be trashed!!!!!! Oh jeez! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:14:40 EST From: Orrin Ladd Subject: Re: Maps In a message dated 98-01-23 00:00:43 EST, you write: << Orrin- I have the map scanned. Let me know what format you want it in. I can convert it to: GIF JPEG BMP TGA TIF Also , it's a pretty large file (1688 x 1096) at about 1.8 Megs. If you need something smaller, I can adjust the propeties of the image. DK >> gif or jpeg format would be great. Thanks! Orrin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:37:26 EST From: Orrin Ladd Subject: Re: The future of twilight 2000 In a message dated 98-01-20 02:46:49 EST, roger@isg.abel.co.uk writes: [stuff snipped] << OK, I'll bite. How in the hell do you effectively run such a game? IMNSHO, the strength of RPGs is the interpersonal contact you get playing them in groups. To run it via e-mail, surely you'd lose some of the spontenaity you get when playing face-to-face? I mean, there's the impulse actions that we all tend to do, when in reality, they weren't too bright to do in the first place... there's dice-rolling critical actions, and a load of other things that tend to be unpredictable. How do you cope with this sort of problem?>> Ok, let me first start out by stating that if you're a pessimist, this might not be for you. Email games run very slowly. My game is run weekly, but if everyone responds early, I send out turns quicker. Some people run their games daily, you'd have to ask them how they do it. But generally things run verrry slowly. Plus, real life often intrudes and people have to drop out. You have to have lots of patience and tolerance. Ok, dealing with spontaneity and die-rolling. I remember when I played my first email TW2k game. I emailed the ref (a former Marine) and asked him how he handled all the die rolling and stuff like that. He simply stated "Fudge it". But I generally do the die rolling for the players with a liberal amount of fudging. Yes, some of the sponteneity is lost in an email game. I generally give the players the benefit of the doubt when handling spontaneity. As I said previously, my game is weekly, therefore the players have plenty of time to think about their actions. However this does not mean they don't make mistakes, jump to conclusions etc. Sh*t still happens and the players have been caught with their pants down several times. Anyways, thats about the gist of my answers to your questions. Hope they help. >And after you've got your game up and running, set up a webpage, detailing >your groups exploits and whatnot. Heck, you can even add on your TW2k stuff >there too. Then you'll have more people interested in your game and TW2k. >I've gotten many positive responses just by posting a summary of my game turns >on an AOL webpage. Yeah, that'd help a lot, but I'm still interested in hearing how you would run such a game by e-mail. I'm pessimistic by nature (meaning I can be pleasantly surprised, unlike an optimist!), and can see a whole raft of troubles. >It can be done! I'll bow to your superior knowledge on the subject, but note the above !>> Don't bow, I'm a humble person by nature. >P.S. >those of you who plan to be in the San Francisco Bay Area around President's >Day Weekend, a friend of mine is going to run a TW2k adventure at Dundracon. Hmm... I *might* be interested, depending on what you tell me about the subject! >> I'll let my friend talk about that. It's his game. It still can be done! Orrin P.S. To all those who asked, I don't have any space in my game. Sorry! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:07:43 -0800 From: Saul Basgen Subject: Re: So far... >In a message dated 98-01-22 23:35:45 EST, you write: > >> If you're talking about a web ring or something like that count me in. >> > >I think he was just talking about members on this >list............................... Members on this list? No, sorry for not being more specific. I had meant that six people (Orinn makes seven) have said that they are willing to contribute to the multiple web site idea, where we divide up the work among ourselves... Saul - ---- http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Twilight.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:21:20 +0200 From: Pietu Subject: Pbem I´m interested to see players part of Pbem. Can somebody please sent a example of normal players mail ( or turn?) to GM? Mr. Pietu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:06:56 -0500 From: Derek Klein Subject: Re: Maps (Oh jeez!) At 05:06 AM 1/23/98 +0000, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-01-23 00:00:43 EST, you write: > >> I have the map scanned. Let me know what format you want it in. >> > >oh jeez! >did you get Tantalus' permission first? >Oh jeez! > Cause you know if you do that, The product line will be trashed!!!!!! > >Oh jeez! Umm... What product line? DK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:29:18 +0100 From: "Niklas Svensson" Subject: SV: So far... Put me on that list too, btw I have some total of 50Mb web space to fill if any one have space problems for thier Twilight:2000/MERC:2000 site. Oh and if any one is interested and willing to contribute with graphics I'll set up a 'base camp' with links and stuff to all the different sections/sites in the web-ring. /Niklas nixxon@webname.com - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Saul Basgen Till: twilight2000@MPGN.COM Datum: den 23 januari 1998 07:19 Ämne: Re: So far... >>In a message dated 98-01-22 23:35:45 EST, you write: >> >>> If you're talking about a web ring or something like that count me in. >>> >> >>I think he was just talking about members on this >>list............................... > >Members on this list? No, sorry for not being more specific. I had meant >that six people (Orinn makes seven) have said that they are willing to >contribute to the multiple web site idea, where we divide up the work among >ourselves... > >Saul > >---- >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Twilight.html > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:49:28 -0500 From: Mitchell Schwartz Subject: Re: European Forces Request Peter Veith complains: > >> Again, division strength and location and general TO&E info exists in the >> WP Vehicle Guide > >The WP Vehicle Guide has a very poor listing-- I'd have perferred prewar >unit strength as well as year 2000 strengths, and the organization of >that part of the book is terrible. But I don't think there is anywhere >else to look. WP divisons were (in our world, anyway) remarkable standardized: Tank Div: 2 Tank Reg'ts, 1 Mech Inf Reg't, 1 Art Reg't Mech Inf Div: 1 Tank Reg'ts, 2 Mech Inf Reg't, 1 Art Reg't Each Regiment is made of 3 battalions, each made of three companies of the same arm (no combined arms Team approach as in the US military). Of course, prewar strength has next to nothing to do with the same unit's strength in 2000. You can find at least unit break down in any circa 1985+ Modern minitaures rules. Or by searching the SOCTW page. As for exactly which regiments made up a given division... I don't think GDW was necessarily running from the historical record, though I could be wrong. mitch Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing in the tempting place. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) Official: Unofficial: mitch@intersys.com Ted7@world.std.com http://www.intersys.com http://world.std.com/~Ted7 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:24:35 -0500 From: "Jay Tidwell" Subject: Re: So far... I'll join in though I am fairly new to html. Seeking a New Work for Christ, Jay Tidwell JayTidwell@msn.com ICQ #2017668 (http://www.mirabilis.com) - -----Original Message----- From: Orrin Ladd To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 11:38 PM Subject: Re: So far... >In a message dated 98-01-22 22:11:59 EST, Saul writes: > ><< Subj: So far... > Date: 98-01-22 22:11:59 EST > From: musides@earthlink.net (Saul Basgen) > Sender: owner-twilight2000@Phaser.ShowCase.MPGN.COM > Reply-to: twilight2000@MPGN.COM > To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM > > > Ok folks, that puts the list at six hitherto: > > Alan > Chris > Roger > Pietu > Daniel > Myself > > Anyone else? ... > > Saul > >> > >If you're talking about a web ring or something like that count me in. > >Orrin >http://members.aol.com/OrrinLadd/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:26:34 -0500 From: "Jay Tidwell" Subject: Re: Maps What ever is smallest. :-) Seeking a New Work for Christ, Jay Tidwell JayTidwell@msn.com ICQ #2017668 (http://www.mirabilis.com) - -----Original Message----- From: Orrin Ladd To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Maps >In a message dated 98-01-23 00:00:43 EST, you write: > ><< > Orrin- > > I have the map scanned. Let me know what format you want it in. > > I can convert it to: > > GIF > JPEG > BMP > TGA > TIF > > Also , it's a pretty large file (1688 x 1096) at about 1.8 Megs. If you > need something smaller, I can adjust the propeties of the image. > > DK > >> > >gif or jpeg format would be great. Thanks! > >Orrin > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:34:01 EST From: KAPPAABZ Subject: Re: Maps (Oh jeez!) In a message dated 98-01-23 08:28:43 EST, you write: > Umm... > > What product line? > that's the sarcastic point i was trying to make................. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 01:30:03 PST From: "Teemu Niemi" Subject: Re: So far... If this count is for your web ring, you could count me in.... But I have to warn you that I can't start right away, I have to use some time to configure my pages and maybe find a server which keep my pages longer than server what I am using now.... Teemu Niemi >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:52:17 -0800 >To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM >From: Saul Basgen >Subject: So far... >Reply-To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM > > > Ok folks, that puts the list at six hitherto: > > Alan > Chris > Roger > Pietu > Daniel > Myself > > Anyone else? ... > >Saul > >---- >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Twilight.html > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:56:18 +0000 From: Roger Stenning Subject: Re: SV: So far... At 14:29 23/01/98 +0100, you wrote: >Put me on that list too, btw I have some total of 50Mb web space to fill if >any one have space problems for thier Twilight:2000/MERC:2000 site. >Oh and if any one is interested and willing to contribute with graphics I'll >set up a 'base camp' with links and stuff to all the different >sections/sites in the web-ring. > >/Niklas >nixxon@webname.com Ahem..... correct me if I'm misreading the above... FIFTY MEGS?! howinthehell...? (apologies for the recent absence... migraines tend to hurt....) _________________________________________________ Cheers, Roger. MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! e-mail: roger@isg.abel.co.uk URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/5037/ _________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:06:35 +0000 From: Roger Stenning Subject: Re: So far... At 15:24 23/01/98 -0500, you wrote: >I'll join in though I am fairly new to html. No problem. There are MANY guides to assembling HTML pages, both basic and advanced. If you've never played with HTML before, I'd suggest using Claris Home Page, which although quirky, has eveything the beginner needs. Once you've become familiar with the coding aspects of HTML (NOW at HTML4.0, if the e-press is anything to go by), you can progress to a more code-based editor, such as HomeSite, Web Edit, or whatever. Again, welcome to the wierd and varied world of HTML! >Seeking a New Work for Christ, Hmm.... I'm a Believer myself, but I'm not too sure how He'd view the hobby! In any event, welcome to the Twilight List! _________________________________________________ Cheers, Roger. MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! e-mail: roger@isg.abel.co.uk URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/5037/ _________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 06:23:02 -0500 From: "Mark H. Walker" Subject: RE: So far... - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD2890.8E586000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can offer use of my scanner. Unfortunately, I may not have all the hard copy materials you folks have. But it is a nice scanner. 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There are MANY guides to assembling HTML pages, both basic and >advanced. If you've never played with HTML before, I'd suggest using Claris >Home Page, which although quirky, has eveything the beginner needs. Once >you've become familiar with the coding aspects of HTML (NOW at HTML4.0, if >the e-press is anything to go by), you can progress to a more code-based >editor, such as HomeSite, Web Edit, or whatever. Again, welcome to the >wierd and varied world of HTML! I have been working a little on html. Mostly I've been using FrontPage Express. Check out my begining work and give me any suggestions. This is my regular page, I will use another one for the TW2000. http://members.xoom.com/pastor >>Seeking a New Work for Christ, >Hmm.... I'm a Believer myself, but I'm not too sure how He'd view the hobby! I guess it depends mostly on how deep you get. (ie. sink your personality into the game.) and what you character does. Is he respectable? I've not mixed much Christianity in, but I'm thinking of my character finding God. How do you think that will effect the game? :-) >In any event, welcome to the Twilight List! Thankz!!! STILL Seeking a New Work for Christ, Jay Tidwell JayTidwell@msn.com ICQ #2017668 (http://www.mirabilis.com) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:36:36 +0000 From: Roger Stenning Subject: Re: So far... At 11:47 24/01/98 -0500, you wrote: >>>Seeking a New Work for Christ, >>Hmm.... I'm a Believer myself, but I'm not too sure how He'd view the >hobby! > >I guess it depends mostly on how deep you get. >(ie. sink your personality into the game.) and what >you character does. Is he respectable? Hmm... no offence, but the way a LOT of more, shall we say, rabid(?), characters in the faith would argue differently. Seen uk.games.roleplay recently? The flame wars betwen some of those shmucks is incredible! All over religeon. Makes me glad I'm a moderate! ENOUGH! I'm off me soapbox! >I've not mixed much Christianity in, but I'm thinking >of my character finding God. How do you think that >will effect the game? :-) LOL! Image this... Christian Player's character: "I've found GOD! I'm NOT gonna kill again!" Other player's characters: (holding up crucifixes like in a bad vampire movie!) "HISSSSSSS! GET BACK!" Sorry ... just my whacky sense of humour... >>In any event, welcome to the Twilight List! > >Thankz!!! > >STILL Seeking a New Work for Christ, > >Jay Tidwell >JayTidwell@msn.com >ICQ #2017668 (http://www.mirabilis.com) I'm gonna regret asking this, as I SHOULD damn well know... what's ICQ?! _________________________________________________ Cheers, Roger. MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! e-mail: roger@isg.abel.co.uk URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/5037/ _________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:10:00 -0000 From: "Tarot Wake" Subject: Re: So far... You can add me to the list! I know a good bit of HTML and I'm learning Java / JavaScript (don't expect anything spectacular though - I've only just really got to grips with putting a "last updated" tag on a page!!) The downside is I don't really have much experience of Twilight 2000, but I'll donate my 2MB of webspace and give as much help as I can! Tas Wake T.Wake@btinternet.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------- -Veni, vermini, vomui- "It is always useful to face an enemy who is prepared to die for his country - that way you both have exactly the same aim in mind!" - -----Original Message----- From: Saul Basgen To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM Date: 23 January 1998 04:15 Subject: So far... > > Ok folks, that puts the list at six hitherto: > > Alan > Chris > Roger > Pietu > Daniel > Myself > > Anyone else? ... > >Saul > >---- >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Twilight.html > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:38:37 -0800 From: Peter Vieth Subject: Re: So far... Roger Stenning Wrote: > I'm gonna regret asking this, as I SHOULD damn well know... what's ICQ?! www.mirabilis.com ICQ lets you send messages, chat, send files, urls, lots of other stuff. WHenever you go online a small window comes up that lists everyone you've added to you contact list. You can add them by doing a search for their name or putting in the ICQ UIN. Mine is in my signature: - -- Peter Vieth Fitek@ix.netcom.com IGZ Handle: Fitek ICQ UIN: 3660410 Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:40:38 -0800 From: Peter Vieth Subject: Re: So far... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Saul Basgen > To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM > Date: 23 January 1998 04:15 > Subject: So far... > > > > > Ok folks, that puts the list at six hitherto: > > > > Alan > > Chris > > Roger > > Pietu > > Daniel > > Myself > > > > Anyone else? ... > > > >Saul > > > >---- > >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html > >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Twilight.html > > > > > > Ok, count me in too. I'm working on my page right now (although I'll include some other role-playing games), I'll gladly link everyone else. - -- Peter Vieth Fitek@ix.netcom.com IGZ Handle: Fitek ICQ UIN: 3660410 Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html Apocalypse Software E-mail: Apocalypsesw@rocketmail.com Apocalypse Software web page: http://www.keast.com/apocalypse ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:10:24 -0500 From: "Jay Tidwell" Subject: Re: So far... From: Roger Stenning To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 1:53 PM Subject: Re: So far... >At 11:47 24/01/98 -0500, you wrote: >>>>Seeking a New Work for Christ, >>>Hmm.... I'm a Believer myself, but I'm not too sure how He'd view the hobby! >>I guess it depends mostly on how deep you get. >>(ie. sink your personality into the game.) and what >>you character does. Is he respectable? >Hmm... no offence, but the way a LOT of more, shall we say, rabid(?), >characters in the faith would argue differently. Seen uk.games.roleplay >recently? The flame wars betwen some of those shmucks is incredible! All >over religeon. Makes me glad I'm a moderate! ENOUGH! I'm off me soapbox! Well I'm not sure how much more rapid (your words not neccessarily mine) I can be since I am currently in seminary and plan to start a new church within the year. As a whole I do not have problem with most RPGs. I do believe that Vampires is too much. My only real problem with RPGs is when they become obsesions or people lose touch with reality. It's just a game folks. I'm not advocating RPGs, but I do agree with you some on both sides need to relax a little. >>I've not mixed much Christianity in, but I'm thinking >>of my character finding God. How do you think that >>will effect the game? :-) >LOL! Image this... >Christian Player's character: "I've found GOD! I'm NOT gonna kill again!" >Other player's characters: (holding up crucifixes like in a bad vampire >movie!) "HISSSSSSS! GET BACK!" Actually I don not think I would hesitate to take a life in self-defense, and I know if my family's lives were threatened the guy is a goner. Lets say 15 rounds with a quick reload. >Sorry ... >just my whacky sense of humour... Well, I guess I should do the Christain thing and forgive you, but something inside me is leaning to taking shots at the hole you just made and watch you dance. Well with the price of ammo and all I guess I forgive you. >>Jay Tidwell >>JayTidwell@msn.com >>ICQ #2017668 (http://www.mirabilis.com) >I'm gonna regret asking this, as I SHOULD damn well know... what's ICQ?! ICQ is a chat program that lets you know if others are on line. Right now I know one of my friends are online. The program allows messages, file transfer, URL, and other stuff. Its much better than AOL's Messenger (I'm Draznar on AOL Messanger) >MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. >ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! Murphy is dead!!! Seeking a New Work for Christ, Jay Tidwell JayTidwell@msn.com ICQ #2017668 (http://www.mirabilis.com) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:09:24 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8ivind_Himsett?=" Subject: [none] unsuscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:59:03 EST From: JTIFFER Subject: Re: unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:28:54 +0000 From: Roger Stenning Subject: Satellite imagery Awright, you techies! Here's a tricky one for you guys! I'm writing a couple of adventures, but to make it really good, I want to lay my hands on a couple of satellite photos, preferrably off the WWW (i.e., public domain/unclassified!). Does anyone know the URL where I can find such imagery at NO CHARGE (OK, I'm a cheapskate!)? Cheers in advance. The adventure, when run, will then be posted on the ISG website! _________________________________________________ Cheers, Roger. MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! e-mail: roger@isg.abel.co.uk URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/5037/ _________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:08:01 -0500 From: Derek Klein Subject: RDF/King's Ransom Does anybody out there know where I can lay may hands the RDF Sourceboook or the King's Ransom adventure module? Any help would be greatly appreciated. DK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:18:21 -0500 From: Derek Klein Subject: One Point Safe/The Peacemaker Greetings: Has anyone else on the list read One Point Safe? It's a bone-chilling, non-fiction account of the horrible state of nuclear weapons security in the Russian Federation (or whatever they are calling it these days). I highly recommend it. You will never get another good night's sleep. The authors, Andrew and Leslie Cockburn, went on to produce last September's Dreamworks movie, "The Peacemaker," which starred George Clooney and Nicole Kidman. They used the book as inspiraion for the movie, both of which are excellent source material for Twilight/Merc. I don't want to start a book club (ala Oprah), but I would like to know what anyone else's thoughts were on the book or the movie. DK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:43:56 +0000 From: Roger Stenning Subject: FOR IMMEDIATE INFORMATION OF LISTOWNER Hello. I Just got this message, which you will need to double-check. The poor sod has an apparent inability to post to the list, while being able to receive. I've sent him a confirmation, direct, that I'll check with you, to see if there's anything to be done, but AFAIK, the e-mail address he's sending to is correct. Message reproduced below: +++++REPRO+++++REPRO+++++ Delivered-To: isg-roger@isg.abel.co.uk From: hobbs_matt/furman@furman.edu X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 98 20:31:03 -0500 Subject: Help w/ TW:2000 mailing list... To: roger@isg.abel.co.uk Hi. I've been a lurker on the Twilight: 2000 mailing list for a few months, and haven't been able to post. I've mailed the help and owner adresses, but gotten no response. What address do you send mail to if you want to post to the group? I've tried "twilight2000@mpgn.com" multiple times. Any advice would be appreciated! - -Hobbs History major & ROTC cadet +++++REPRO+++++REPRO+++++ _________________________________________________ Cheers, Roger. MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! e-mail: roger@isg.abel.co.uk URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/5037/ _________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:15:58 -0800 From: Peter Vieth Subject: Re: Satellite imagery I remember seeing some pics at the Russian Aviation Page a year or two ago... and several others at cia.gov or something... - -- Peter ViethRoger Stenning wrote: > > Awright, you techies! > > Here's a tricky one for you guys! > > I'm writing a couple of adventures, but to make it really good, I want to > lay my hands on a couple of satellite photos, preferrably off the WWW > (i.e., public domain/unclassified!). > > Does anyone know the URL where I can find such imagery at NO CHARGE (OK, > I'm a cheapskate!)? > > Cheers in advance. The adventure, when run, will then be posted on the ISG > website! > > _________________________________________________ > Cheers, > > Roger. > > MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. > ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! > e-mail: roger@isg.abel.co.uk > URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/5037/ > _________________________________________________ Fitek@ix.netcom.com IGZ Handle: Fitek ICQ UIN: 3660410 Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html Apocalypse Software E-mail: Apocalypsesw@rocketmail.com Apocalypse Software web page: http://www.keast.com/apocalypse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:45:15 -0500 From: "Jay Tidwell" Subject: Re: Satellite imagery If you find some good sites, please post the URLs here. Seeking a New Work for Christ, Jay Tidwell JayTidwell@msn.com ICQ #2017668 (http://www.mirabilis.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:58:13 -0500 From: Matt Aistrich Subject: Re: Mailing problems Roger Stenning wrote: > Hello. > > I Just got this message, which you will need to double-check. The poor sod > has an apparent inability to post to the list, while being able to receive. Not that I know anything of these matters, but: Comment to Hobbs -- are you sure the email address that shows in the mails you send is the same as the one you subscibed to? E.g. you have the sending address set up accurately, you are not forwarding to your address from another address, etc. This can sometimes be the cause, as I think the list only admits messages which have been sent from a member address. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 23:50:29 -0700 From: Gregory Horrell Subject: Re: Satellite imagery At 10:28 PM 1/27/98 +0000, you wrote: >Awright, you techies! > >Here's a tricky one for you guys! not to hard, just got to know where to look. >I'm writing a couple of adventures, but to make it really good, I want to >lay my hands on a couple of satellite photos, preferrably off the WWW >(i.e., public domain/unclassified!). > >Does anyone know the URL where I can find such imagery at NO CHARGE (OK, >I'm a cheapskate!)? > >Cheers in advance. The adventure, when run, will then be posted on the ISG >website! Roger give this site a try: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html This program displays map data as if taken from a satelite You choose which sat. or from whatever lat. / long. you wish. The image database is from: http://livingearth.com/ John Walker's site is one of my favorites he is a prolific programmer and has written many useful things for all of the GDW games (I might add that to the best of my knowledge he isn't even a gamer). Mark Durrant, If you see this, his homepage has that site, Terranova I told you about but never gave you the URL for. Terranova randomly generates pictures of varied earth type planets as seen from a distant orbit. a new planet is generated every day, or you can download the program for free and go to town. Hope this is a help. For general information I have been playing Traveler since early in it's first release 1976, and got into Twilight As soon as it was put out. I'll see if I can't post here more often as I have a large quantity of info I have never published. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: Narve Subject: Re: Satellite imagery Just a suggestion, but why not try this site: http://www.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/index.html _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:33:34 -0800 (PST) From: Narve Subject: Re: Satellite imagery Here's another suggestion, these photos are recently declassified: http://edcwww.cr.usgs.gov/dclass/dclass.html _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:58:29 +0100 From: "Niklas Svensson" Subject: SV: Satellite imagery Hi there Roger, is there any specific type of imagery you are looking for, I mean do you need country level or objective (factories, farms, training camps....] level on the images? Do you need IR pictures or just regular pictures, I have done some IR-type of images for my own senarios in MERC-SpecOps using PsPro 4.1 (they where very good according to a guy who does look at such pics daily). I'll put them up on my site if any one whanna take a look at them. /Niklas 'A Swede called NixxoN' nixxon@webname.com - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Roger Stenning Till: millenniums-end-l@perspex.com ; twilight2000@MPGN.COM Datum: den 27 januari 1998 23:48 Ämne: Satellite imagery >Awright, you techies! > >Here's a tricky one for you guys! > >I'm writing a couple of adventures, but to make it really good, I want to >lay my hands on a couple of satellite photos, preferrably off the WWW >(i.e., public domain/unclassified!). > >Does anyone know the URL where I can find such imagery at NO CHARGE (OK, >I'm a cheapskate!)? > >Cheers in advance. The adventure, when run, will then be posted on the ISG >website! > >_________________________________________________ >Cheers, > >Roger. > >MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. >ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! >e-mail: roger@isg.abel.co.uk >URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/5037/ >_________________________________________________ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:25:26 PST From: "Teemu Niemi" Subject: Re: Satellite imagery One place where you could look is finnish university site http://garbo.uwasa.fi/astro.html There is mostly pictures from planets and some crafts (like russian Mir-station), nothing really sharp and accurate picture (most pictures are taken from US spacecrafts..... Niemi >Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:28:54 +0000 >To: millenniums-end-l@perspex.com, twilight2000@MPGN.COM >From: Roger Stenning >Subject: Satellite imagery >Reply-To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM > >Awright, you techies! > >Here's a tricky one for you guys! > >I'm writing a couple of adventures, but to make it really good, I want to >lay my hands on a couple of satellite photos, preferrably off the WWW >(i.e., public domain/unclassified!). > >Does anyone know the URL where I can find such imagery at NO CHARGE (OK, >I'm a cheapskate!)? > >Cheers in advance. The adventure, when run, will then be posted on the ISG >website! > >_________________________________________________ >Cheers, > >Roger. > >MURPHY was a bloody optimist. It Always goes wrong. >ESPECIALLY if it's mission critical! >e-mail: roger@isg.abel.co.uk >URL: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/5037/ >_________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of twilight2000-digest V1998 #3 ***********************************