twilight2000-digest Wednesday, December 3 1997 Volume 1996 : Number 064 The following topics are covered in this digest: New Aircraft Supplement Part 3 Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part/Nautical/Aviation Handbook Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part/Nautical/Aviation Handbook Re: The Bundeswehr New Aircraft Supplement Part 4 Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 Character sheets. Re: The Bundeswehr Re: The Bundeswehr New Aircraft Supplement Part 5 Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 Re: Character sheets. Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part/Nautical/Aviation Handbook Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part/Nautical/Aviation Handbook Re: take me off this Re: take me off this Re: Character sheets. Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 Re: The Bundeswehr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:51:41 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: New Aircraft Supplement Part 3 New Aircraft Supplement Part 3 by Cbrody McDonnell Douglas A-4 Skyhawk (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) A relatively small, compact and light-weight single-seat ground-attack bomber, the A-4 was first used by the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps in combat actions in the Vietnam Conflict. The A-4 has seen service in the air forces of Australia, Indonesia, New Zealand, Signapore and others. The pilot has an ejection seat and the aircraft is capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $1,600,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $3,200,000 (S/R) Armament: Two fixed 20mm autocannons Ammo: 400x20mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 2300kg on 5 hardpoints Veh Wt: 13.7tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 552/496m Combat Equipment: none Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 20mm AC 1: O 20mm AC 2: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1408 Com Mov: 53 (20) Fuel Cap: 1800 Fuel Cons: 1800 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 20mm 10 200C 250 API 10 3/-2/-5 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) Now exiting service with the U.S. Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force, the F-4 has been in service since the early-1960s. It has served in the forces of Egypt, Greece, Iran, Japan, South Korea, Spain, Turkey and United Kingdom. Also, Germany used the F-4 in the quick-reaction strike and interception roles. The aircraft is large, tough and provides ejection seats for its crew of two. Merc: 2000 Price: $15,000,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $30,000,000 (S/R) Armament: One fixed 20mm Vulcan autocannon, 4 AIM-7 Sparrow AAMs Ammo: 640x20mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 7200kg on 5 hardpoints Veh Wt: 30.8tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 800/662m Combat Equipment: radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 20mm Vulcan AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 3528 Com Mov: 133 (50) Fuel Cap: 9500 Fuel Cons: 9500 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapons ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 20mm Vulcan 60 640C 250 API 10 3/-2/-5 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C MH-53H Pave Low II and MH-53J Pave Low III (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) NOTE: These SpecOps helicopters can be armed with the M-134 7.62mmN mini-gun at the door-gun mount. This increases the aircraft's Merc: 2000 Price by $2000, and Twilight: 2000 Price by $5000. Weapon ROF Dam Pen Blk Mag SS Brst Rng M-134 100 4 2-3-N 4 1500B * * 150 * Weapon has negligible recoil Mi-8 Hip (Rotary Wing Aircraft) NOTE: The Mi-8 Hip helicopter given in the _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_ can carry its military load on 6 external hardpoints. Most of the time, this armamnet consists of six UV-32-57 rocket launcer pods for a total of 192 57mm unguided rockets. Mounted above the rocket pods are four AT-3 'Sagger" (two per wing) antitank guided missiles. In addition, a 12.7mm machine gun is mounted in the nose. When using this weapon configuration, use Ammo: 192x57mm rockets, 4 AT-3 ATGMs, 500x12.7mm Weapon ROF Dam Pen Blk Mag SS Brst Rng 12.7mm MG 5 9 2-2-3 8 100B * * 150 *Weapon has negligible recoil when used in this role Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 57mm rocket 16 32 400 HE C:8, B:28 -4C Missile Rng Damage Pen AT-3 3000 C:6, B:4 75C ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 20:18:47 -0800 From: Peter Vieth Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part/Nautical/Aviation Handbook Are there any Polish aircraft in the Nautical/Aviation Handbook? It would seem stupid to not include the aircraft of the country where most Twilight:2000 campaigns are supposed to start. The supplements look great, I'm going to have to try them out some time with my Twilight:2000 group. - -- Peter Vieth Fitek@ix.netcom.com, Fitek@geocities.com IGZ Handle: Fitek ICQ UIN: 3660410 Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html Apocalypse Software E-mail: Apocalypsesw@rocketmail.com Apocalypse Software web page: http://www.keast.com/apocalypse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 12:03:16 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part/Nautical/Aviation Handbook Peter Vieth wrote: > > Are there any Polish aircraft in the Nautical/Aviation Handbook? It > would seem stupid to not include the aircraft of the country where most > Twilight:2000 campaigns are supposed to start. The supplements look > great, I'm going to have to try them out some time with my Twilight:2000 > group. Peter, Unfortunately, Warsaw Pact aircraft were covered very lightly in the _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_ and I don't believe that any Polish aircraft were covered. As with many of the former Soviet satellite countries, Poland relied on Soviet designs for many of its aircraft. Such examples as the MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-27, MiG-29, etc. were used extensively by the Polish air force and will appear in my Supplement as soon as I get to that part of it. Also, I will be including a couple planes designed, built and operated by the Polish. I am glad you enjoy the Supplements so far (I will be starting Part 4 shortly)! ~Cbrody ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 10:23:07 -0800 From: Hale Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr Chris Brody wrote: > Do you need any further information on the Bundeswehr, such as Order of > Battle, equipment make up, etc. ... ? If you can post it anyway, as I am interested and I'm sure there are others. TTFN Ron Hale ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 12:56:49 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: New Aircraft Supplement Part 4 New Aircraft Supplement Part 4 by: Cbrody Mi-24 Hind (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) NOTE: The Mi-24 'Hind' given in the _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_ should be armed with a 12.7mm Jak B-12.7 4-barrel machine gun mounted in a chin turret. The weapon has Ammo: 500x12.7mmB. The export version of the 'Hind' is called Mi-35. Weapon ROF Dam Pen Blk Mag SS Brst Rng 12.7mm-4 MG 50 9 2-2-3 8 500B * * 150 *Weapon has negligible recoil when used in this role. Later versions of the Mi-24 ('Hind-E' and 'Hind-F') have the 12.7mm 4-barrel machine gun turret deleted and have one fixed 30mm GSh-30-2 Twin barrel cannon pack fitted to the starboard side. Add: $100,000 (Merc:2000)/ $250,000 (Twilight:2000) to the price for a 'Hind' equipped in this way. Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mm-2 20 750C 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C Mi-28 Havoc (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) NOTE: The Mi-28 given in the _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_ should be armed with a 30mm 2A42 sigle-barrel autocannon instead of the 30mm-3 autocannon given in the Handbook. Ammo for this weapon is 300x30mm Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mm 10 300B 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C MiG-17 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) An ederly Soviet fighter, the MiG-17, codenamed 'Fresco' by NATO, has been in service in over 30 air forces around the world. This ground-attack/fighter aircraft has an ejection seat for the pilot, but is not capable of in-flight refueling. The MiG-17 is produced in China as the Shenyang J-5 and in Poland as the LiM-5P (fighter) and LiM-5M (ground-attack). Merc: 2000 Price: $550,000 (R/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $900,000 (R/S) Armament: One fixed 37mm autocannon, two fixed 23mm autocannon Ammo: 40x37mm, 160x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 1800kg on 6 hardpoints Veh Wt: 6.7tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 10 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 720/850m Combat Equipment: none Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 37mm AC: O 23mm AC 1: O 23mm AC 2: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1689 Com Mov: 64 (24) Fuel Cap: 1600 Fuel Cons: 1600 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 37mm 5 40C 400 APT 16 5/1/-2 400 HET C:1, B:2 -6C Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm 10 80C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C MiG-19 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) Another older Soviet fighter/strike aircraft, the MiG-19 codenamed 'Farmer' by Nato, has served in most Soviet satellite nations and was produced in China as the Shenyang J-6, Czechoslovakia as the S-105, and Poland as the LiM-7. The pilot has an ejection seat, but the aircraft is not capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $600,000 (R/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $950,000 (R/S) Armament: Three fixed 30mm autocannons Ammo: 230x30mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: Two 500kg drop tanks Veh Wt: 9.8tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 720/850m Combat Equipment: none Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 30mm AC 1: O 30mm AC 2: O 30mm AC 3: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 2145 Com Mov: 80 (23) Fuel Cap: 1800 Fuel Cons: 1800 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mm 10 * 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C *One 30mm gun is mounted in the aircraft's fuselage and Has Mag: 55C. One 30mm gun is also mounted in each of the aircraft's wings; these weapons have Mag: 75C. MiG-21 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The MiG-21 codenamed 'Fishbed' by NATO, is very comman Soviet close-support/strike and fighter aircraft that can be encounterd around the world. It is still in service with many Soviet satellite nations. The pilot has an ejection seat but the aircraft is incapable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $1,200,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $2,400,000 (R/S) Armament: One fixed 23mm-2 autocannon Ammo: 200x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 2000kg on 4 hardpoints Veh Wt: 11.5tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 650/776m Combat Equipment: integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm-2 AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 3290 Com Mov: 124 (47) Fuel Cap: 3000 Fuel Cons: 3000 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm-2 20 200C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C MiG-23 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The MiG-23 NATO codenamed 'Flogger', was designed as a cheap, mass-produced attack/fighter aircraft offering the same level of capability as the SEPECAT Jaguar (see _Nautical/Avaition Handbook_). This variable wing geometry (swing wing) aircraft is in use by the Soviet Union, most satellite nations, amoung many other nations world-wide. The pilot has an ejection seat but the aircraft is incapable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $2,000,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $4,000,000 (-/S) Armament: One fixed 23mm-2 autocannon Ammo: 200x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 3000kg on 5 hardpoints Veh Wt: 20.8tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 904/952m Combat Equipment: integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm-2 AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 2800 Com Mov: 100 (33) Fuel Cap: 4500 Fuel Cons: 5200 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm-2 20 200C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 15:46:51 -0500 From: Ken Weise Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 O.K., I'm new so I must have missed part one. Where do I find it? Thanks... Ken Weise (kweise@econocaribe.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 16:19:52 -0500 From: Ken Weise Subject: Character sheets. Has anybody made up character sheets for Twilight 2000? I would like a sheet with the weapon charts, etc. Before I go and make my own, I was wondering if anybody knows where to find some. Preferably in postscript or Word, but any are good... Thanks all... Ken Weise (kweise@econocaribe.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 15:26:28 -0600 From: shonnie holmes Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr This is my last nice request, take me of you junk mail or I'll have you in court.......It's free for me.............have a few thoussand to blow on fee's! shonnie@realityic.com Saul Basgen wrote: > Thanks for the replies Roger, Mike and Matt. Much appreciated, and helpful. > > Saul > > ---- > http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 14:52:53 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr Hale wrote: > > Chris Brody wrote: > > Do you need any further information on the Bundeswehr, such as Order of > > Battle, equipment make up, etc. ... ? > > If you can post it anyway, as I am interested and I'm sure there are > others. > TTFN > Ron Hale Ron, Sure, I'll begin posting ASAP ... if there is anything you (or anyone else) wants to know, let ME know! ~Cbrody ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 16:50:34 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: New Aircraft Supplement Part 5 New Aircraft Supplement Part 5 by: Cbrody MiG-25 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The MiG-25 is a high-speed, long-range fighter-interceptor codenamed 'Foxbat' by NATO. The aircraft carries four air-to-air missiles, either two AA-6 'Acrid' IR- and radar-homing or two AA-7 'Apex' and two AA-8 'Aphid' air-to-air missiles. The aircraft has an ejection seat for the pilot but is not capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $12,500,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $25,000,000 (-/R) Fuel Type: AvG Load: see text Veh Wt: 41.3tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 1200/900m Combat Equipment: integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 4390 Com Mov: 166 (63) Fuel Cap: 11,500 Fuel Cons: 12,000 - -----------------Weapon Data-------------------- Missiles Rng Guidance Acc. Level AA-6 Acrid 20km Radar/IR Difficult AA-7 Apex 24km Radar Average AA-8 Aphid 45km Radar Average MiG-27 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The MiG-27, also codenamed 'Flogger' by NATO, is a close-support/tactical strike version of the MiG-23. It is in very common usage around the world. The pilot has an ejection seat but the aircraft is not capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $2,000,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $4,000,000 (R/S) Armament: One fixed 23mm-2 autocannon Ammo: 200x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 4000kg on 7 hardpoints Veh Wt: 22.4tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 904/952m Combat Equipment: integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm-2 AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 2780 Com Mov: 105 (40) Fuel Cap: 4500 Fuel Cons: 5200 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm-2 20 200C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C MiG-29 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The MiG-29 is one of the most recent and advanced Soviet aircraft. Codenamed 'Fulcrm' by NATO, the aircraft serves in both the fighter/air-superiority and ground attack role. It has been widely exported and features advanced electronics plus an ejection seat for the pilot and is capable of in-flight refueling. MiG-29s armed with UV-57mm rocket pods flew ground attack missions in the early stages of the ethnic fighting in the former Yugoslavia, and the aircraft were encountered by coalition forces during the Persian Gulf War of 1991. Merc: 2000 Price: $12,500,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $25,000,000 (-/S) Armament: One fixed 30mm autocannon Ammo: 150x30mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 300kg on 6 hardpoints Veh Wt: 20.5tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 800/528m Combat Equipment: FLIR, radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 30mm AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 3606 Com Mov: 136 (52) Fuel Cap: 4800 Fuel Cons: 4800 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mm 10 150C 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C MiG-31 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The MiG-31 is the most recent Sovietaircraft to be produced by the Mikoyan-Gurevich design bureau. Codenamed 'Foxhound' by NATO, the aircraft is a modernized version of the MiG-25 and serves as a dual-role fighter/strategic-bomber in the Soviet air force. The crew are provided with ejection seats and the aircraft is capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $24,000,000 (-/-) Twilight: 2000 Price: $48,000,000 (-/R) Armament: One fixed 23mm six-barrel autocannon Ammo: 260x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: four AA-9 'Amos", two AA-6 'Acrid' or four AA-8 'Aphid' AAMs Veh Wt: 50.9tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 14 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 1300/850m Combat Equipment: FLIR, radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm-6 AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 4430 Com Mov: 167 (63) Fuel Cap: 12,000 Fuel Cons: 12,000 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm-6 50 260C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C Missiles Rng Guidance Acc. Level AA-6 Acrid 20km Radar/IR Difficult AA-8 Aphid 45km Radar Average AA-9 Amos 60km Radar Average Mitsubishi F-1 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The F-1 is a twin-engine close-upport aircraft in use by the Japanese Air Self-Defense Force. The aircraft is a sleek, modern, effective design. The pilot is provided with an ejection seat. Merc: 2000 Price: $5,000,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $12,500,000 (R/-) Armament: One fixed 20mm Vulcan autocannon Ammo: 750x20mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 2700kg on 5 hardpoints Veh Wt: 15tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 800/528m Combat Equipment: radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 20mm Vulcan AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 2520 Com Mov: 95 (36) Fuel Cap: 4000 Fuel Cons: 4000 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 20mm Vulcan 60 750C 250 API 10 3/-2/-5 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C Nanchang Q-5 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The Q-5 is one of the most important combat aircraft in the air force inventory of the Chinese People's Republic, and is a close-support fighter derived from the Soviet MiG-19. Like the F-6, this aircraft is offered on the export market and is used extensively by Pakistan, North Korea, and Bangledesh. The pilot has an ejection seat but the aircraft is not capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $650,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $1,350,000 (-/S) Armament: Two fixed 23mm autocannons Ammo: 200x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 2000kg on 10 hardpoints Veh Wt: 13tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 10 Runway: Primitive Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 760/496m Combat Equipment: integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm AC 1: O 23mm AC 2: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1756 Com Mov: 66 (27) Fuel Cap: 2300 Fuel Cons: 2300 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm 10 100C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C Panavia Tornado (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) NOTE: The Tornado GR.1 (Tornado IDS) given in the _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_ should be armed with two fixed 27mm IWKA-Mauser autocannon instead of one. Ammo should be 360x27mm. Another version, the Tornado ADV (Air Defense Variant) is armed with a single 27mm autocannon with 180x27mm and can carry 5800 kg on 6 hardpoints. PZL Mi-2 Hoplite (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) The Mi-2 ia an older, light-duty helicopter designed by the Soviet Mil design bureau and produced by PZL in Poland. The aircraft bears the NATO codename 'Hoplite' and has been introduced in several versions, including casevac (casualty evacuation), naval support, armed reconnaissance, close-support and anti-tank (the examples illustrated here). The close-support can carry eight passengers and is armed with a fixed 23mm autocannon, two 7.62mm machine gun pods and two 7.62mm pintle-mounted machine guns, mounted at both doors. The antitank version is armed with four AT-3 'Sagger' missiles carried on pylons on the cabin side. Four reload missiles are also carried in the cabin. Alternately, these AT-3s can be replaced with four SA-7 'Grail' anti-aircraft missiles in the air-to-air missile role. This configuration is used by the Mi-2 for the escort of other helicopters. Merc: 2000 Price: $100,000 (R/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $250,000 (R/S) Armament: see text Ammo: 200x23mm, 4000x7.62mmL or 8 AT-3 ATGM or 8 SA-7 Fuel Type: AvG Load: 700kg (internal) at the expense of armament, 800kg slung at the expense of internal capacity and armament Veh Wt: 4tons Crew: 2+8 Mnt: 10 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 24m Combat Equipment: none Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Copilot O Passengers: 1O 2O 3O 4O 5O 6O 7O 8O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm AC: O 7.62mm MG 1: O 7.62mm MG 2: O 7.62mm Door Gun (P): O 7.62mm Door Gun (S): O Ammo (Anti-Tank): O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 295 Com Mov: 11 Fuel Cap: 800 Fuel Cons: 800 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm 10 200C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C Missile Rng Damage Pen AT-3 3000 C:6, B:4 75C Missile Rng Guidance Acc. Level SA-7 3.6km IR Difficult PZL I-22 Iryda (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The Iryda (iridium) is a light Polish fighter, close-support, trainer aircraft which is offered for export sale and began to serve as a light attack aircraft in the Polish Air Force in 1993. Both crew have ejection seats, and the aircraft can carry 500kg drop tanks on its inboard weapons hardpoints. Merc: 2000 Price: $1,200,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $2,500,000 (-/R) Armament: One fixed 23mm autocannon Ammo: 200x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 1200kg on 4 hardpoints Veh Wt: 7.6tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 10 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 616/744m Combat Equipment: integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapon officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1240 Com Mov: 47 (18) Fuel Cap: 1800 Fuel Cons: 1800 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm 10 200C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C Rockwell OV-10D Bronco (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The OV-10D is the latest varaition of the venerable Broco Foward Air Control and Counter Insurrgency aircraft. The OV-10D is upgraded to perform the NOGS (Night Observation/Gunship) role by featuring upgraded electronics systems. Standard armament consists of four M60C 7.62mm machine guns mounted in the fuselage, external hardpoints capable of carrying cluster bombs, flares, laser-guided bombs, rocket-launcher pods, and machine gun and cannon pods. Alternately, a 20mm M197 three-barrel cannon with 1500 rounds, directed by the AAS-37 system. Powered by two counter-rotating turbo prop engines, the aircraft does not have ejection seats and is not capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $850,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $1,000,000 (R/-) Armament: Four fixed M60 machine guns, M197 20mm autocannon (if no hardpoints are used) Ammo: 2000x7.62mmN, 1500x20mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 2200kg on 7 hardpoints Veh Wt: 7.2tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 616/744m Combat Equipment: FLIR, Laser designator Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapon officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O M60 MG 1: O M60 MG 2: O M60 MG 3: O M60 MG 4: O 20mm M197 AC (if carried): O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1240 Com Mov: 47 (18) Fuel Cap: 1200 Fuel Cons: 1100 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Dam Pen Blk Mag SS Brst Rng M60 5 4 2-3-N 6 500C * * 125 *Weapon has negligible recoil when used in this role Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen M197 20mm 30 1500C 250 API 10 3/-2/-5 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:29:40 -0800 (PST) From: Saul Basgen Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 Ken, I'll be putting all the aircraft info being provided by Chris up on my web pages in about a week or so. Finals are comming around the corner, so it'll take me some time. In the meantime, I can mail you the first supplement. Saul On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Ken Weise wrote: > O.K., I'm new so I must have missed part one. Where do I find it? Thanks... > > > Ken Weise (kweise@econocaribe.com) > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:30:57 -0800 (PST) From: Saul Basgen Subject: Re: Character sheets. Ken, I've got Character sheets on my web site: http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Twilight.html Saul On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Ken Weise wrote: > Has anybody made up character sheets for Twilight 2000? I would like a > sheet with the weapon charts, etc. Before I go and make my own, I was > wondering if anybody knows where to find some. Preferably in postscript or > Word, but any are good... Thanks all... > > > > Ken Weise (kweise@econocaribe.com) > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 19:08:37 -0500 (EST) From: OrrinLadd@aol.com Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part/Nautical/Aviation Handbook In a message dated 97-12-02 04:04:08 EST, fitek@ix.netcom writes: << Are there any Polish aircraft in the Nautical/Aviation Handbook? It would seem stupid to not include the aircraft of the country where most Twilight:2000 campaigns are supposed to start. The supplements look great, I'm going to have to try them out some time with my Twilight:2000 group. >> IIRC, there aren't any Polish aircraft in the Nautical Aviation Handbook. However, in the 1st Edition Aviation Supplement, which was published in one of the Challenge Magazines, they had stats for the PKL or PZL, a Polish helicopter. I don't remember which issue offhand. When I go home for winter break, I'll dig through my TW2k stuff and check the issue number. BTW, does anyone have second part of the 1st edition Aviation Supplement? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 22:23:43 -0500 From: Robert Beck Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part/Nautical/Aviation Handbook At 07:08 PM 12/2/97 -0500, you wrote: >IIRC, there aren't any Polish aircraft in the Nautical Aviation Handbook. > However, in the 1st Edition Aviation Supplement, which was published in one >of the Challenge Magazines, they had stats for the PKL or PZL, a Polish >helicopter. I don't remember which issue offhand. When I go home for winter >break, I'll dig through my TW2k stuff and check the issue number. > >BTW, does anyone have second part of the 1st edition Aviation Supplement? I have them both. They were in Challenge #26 and #28, respectively. Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 22:35:54 -0600 From: shonnie holmes Subject: Re: take me off this Shonnie@realityic.com take me off your junk mail list, this is my thrird request, and if it doesn't get to you, I'll make it my lifes work > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 21:13:12 -0800 From: Saul Basgen Subject: Re: take me off this >Shonnie@realityic.com take me off your junk mail list, this is my thrird >request, and if it doesn't get to you, I'll make it my lifes work Shonnie, Had you read the mail you were sent when you joined, you would not have this problem. Threatening the persons on this list, who have no power to take you off, is absurd and futile. If you are truly upset, you can contact you're system administrator and set up a filter so that all mail sent to you from this list, you will not recieve. In any event, venting you're anger on us very misplaced. I should think that it should be directed at whoever put you on this list, and then subsequently, deleted the welcome message you recieved from Majordomo. "If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe twilight2000 shonnie@realityic.com" Thank you for you're patience, though I never saw you're first request. You're second and third were but acouple hours apart.... Saul - ---- http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 10:18:21 -0500 From: Ken Weise Subject: Re: Character sheets. Gee, two messages to you in five minutes... :) What platform of Word is your character sheet in? I downloaded it, and it does not work correctly for my version of Word (7.0 for Windows 95). What printer/margins/page size did you use? The columns on the first page are definitely not right, and I can't seem to fix them. At 03:30 PM 12/2/97 -0800, you wrote: > > Ken, > > > I've got Character sheets on my web site: > >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Twilight.html > >Saul > >On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Ken Weise wrote: > >> Has anybody made up character sheets for Twilight 2000? I would like a >> sheet with the weapon charts, etc. Before I go and make my own, I was >> wondering if anybody knows where to find some. Preferably in postscript or >> Word, but any are good... Thanks all... >> >> >> >> Ken Weise (kweise@econocaribe.com) >> > > > Ken Weise (kweise@econocaribe.com) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 10:46:56 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 Ken Weise wrote: > > O.K., I'm new so I must have missed part one. Where do I find it? Thanks... > Ken, Thanks for your interest. I will try to retype Part 1 for you (it wasn't that long!) when I get a chance. ~Cbrody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 10:51:11 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 Ken Weise wrote: > > O.K., I'm new so I must have missed part one. Where do I find it? Thanks... > Ken, I guess Saul has you taken care of as far as Part 1 of the Supplement goes ... that's what I get for responding to my mail before reading all of the messages! Thanks Saul. ~Cbrody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 13:05:43 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr If you can post it anyway, as I am interested and I'm sure there are others. TTFN Ron Hale Ron, Here is some information on the Bundeswehr that I hope you will find useful and interesting. This is mainly unit/equipment break down at the Battalion-level. Later, I will send more detailed information on Geramn Infantry units (don't have the information with me at school right now!). If you have a question or need further information on anything, let me know. ~Cbrody ORGANIZATION - Ground Forces These represent the prewar authorized equipment levels of units. GERMANY The following tables are prewar levels and do not represent the current (1 July 2000) condition of any unit. MBTs are either Leopard IIIs or Leopard IIs; light tanks are TH-301s or (rarely) Cadillac Gage Stingrays. PANZER BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Company: 2 MBTs 2 Leopard ARVs 4 M577 TOCs (staff) 3 Panzer Companies, each with: 13 MBTs MIXED PANZER BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Company: 2 Marders 2 M577 TOCs (staff) 2 Panzer Companies, each with: 13 MBTs 1 Panzergrenadier Company: 14 Marders 12 Milan ATGM launchers PANZERGRENADIER BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Company: 2 Marders 4 M577 TOCs (staff) 3 Panzergrenadier Companies, each with: 14 Marders 12 Milan ATGM launchers 1 Mortar Company: 6 M113 SP 120mm mortars 1 M113 fire direction vehicle 3 M113s MIXED PANZERGRENADIER BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Company: 2 Marders 2 M577 TOCs (staff) 2 Panzergrenadier Companies, each with: 14 Marders 12 Milan ATGM launchers 1 Panzer Company: 13 MBTs 1 Mortar Company: 6 M113 SP 120mm mortars 1 M113 fire direction vehicle 3 M113s PANZER AUFKLARUNGS (RECON) BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Company: 3 MBTs 2 Heavy Companies, each with: 14 MBTs 1 Light Company: 31 TH-301 or Spahpanzer Luchs armored cars PANZERARTILLERIE BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Battery: 4 M577 TOCs (staff) 12 M113 FIST vehicles 3 Firing Batteries, each with: 8 M109A2 SP 155mm howitzers (4 per platoon) 8 M548 ammo tractors 1 Support Battery: 4 M578 ARVs HOWITZER BATTALION (SP) Headquarters and Headquarters Battery: 4 M577 TOCs (staff) 3 Firing Batteries, each with: 6 M110 8" SP howitzers 6 M648 heavy ammo tractors FIELD ARTILLERY ROCKET BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Battery: 4 M577 TOCs (staff) 3 Firing Batteries, each with: 6 multiple rocket launchers NOTE: either MLRS or LARS. AIR DEFENSE ARTILLERY BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Battery: 4 M577 TOCs (staff) 15 Stinger launchers (AA rocket platoon) 10 TPz-1 Fuchs wheeled APCs 6 Firing Batteries, each with: 6 Flakpanzer Gepard SPAA guns 6 TPz-1 Fuchs wheeled APCs AIR DEFENSE MISSILE BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Battery: 4 M577 TOCs (staff) 4 TPz-1 Fuchs wheeled APCs 3 Firing Batteries, each with: 4 M113s 12 Roland SP SAM launchers JAGER BATTALION Headquarters and Headquarters Company: 4 M113s 3 Jager Companies, each with: 15 M113s 12 Carl Gustav recoiless rifles 1 Heavy Company: 6 120mm mortars 18 Milan ATGM launchers GENERIC The following is a list of combat vehicles in common usage by German Army ground units: M151 1/4-Ton Truck "Jeep" MAN 7t 6x6 7-Ton Truck Marder tracked APC M992 FAASV (Field Artillery Ammunition Support Vehicle) Spahpanzer Luchs ("Lynx") 8x8 wheeled LCV TH-301 tracked light tank TPz-1 Fuchs ("Fox") 6x6 wheeled APC UR-416 4x4 wheeled APC Leopard AEV (Armored Engineer Vehicle) tracked engineer vehicle Leopard ARV (Armored Recovery Vehicle) tracked engineer vehicle Leopard I main battle tank Leopard II main battle tank Leopard III main battle tank M110 203mm (8") self-propelled howitzer Flakpanzer Gepard self-propelled antiaircraft gun Jagdpanzer Kanone self-propelled tank destroyer Roland SPAA (Self-Propelled Antiaircraft) Wiesel tracked self-propelled artillery Wildcat 4x4 wheeled self-propelled antiaircraft ORGANIZATION - Air Forces (Luftwaffe) German attack helicopter tactics differ radically from the rest of NATO: German attack helicopters operate in flights of seven helicopters, with each helicopter locating and attacking its own targets. german fixed-wing aircraft operate in pairs. Recon helicopters are attached to the headquarters of the corps-level Aviation Command, which consists of an antitank helicopter regiment, one light and one medium transport regiment. the Germans hope to make up for the lack of scouting with an intimate knowledge of the local terrain acquired by imtensive training flights. Note that a German helicopter regiment actually has only one battalion of helicopters. LIGHT FLIGHT BATTALION Headquarters: 2 Light Transport Companies: 16 UH-1s NOTES: One per light aviation transport regiment. MEDIUM FLIGHT BATTALION Headquarters: 2 Light Transport Companies: 12 CH-53s NOTES: One per medium aviation transport regiment. ANTITANK FLIGHT BATTALION Headquarters: 4 Bo-105s (Scout and Liaison) 2 Antitank Squadrons: 28 Bo-105s with ATGMs or Bo-117s with ATGMs NOTES: One per corps antitank helicopter regiment GERMAN AIRFORCE (Luftwaffe) The Luftwaffe is organized in squadrons of approximately 30 aircraft which, like most nations, operate in pairs. ------------------------------ End of twilight2000-digest V1996 #64 ************************************