twilight2000-digest Monday, December 1 1997 Volume 1996 : Number 063 The following topics are covered in this digest: Re: Aircraft Re: Blackhawk Stats Re: Rules collection boats (was: Re: Aircraft) Re: Aircraft Re: Aircraft Re: Aircraft Military Police OB Re: Aircraft Re: Aircraft and attached Tw2000 document Re: Military Police OB Re: Aircraft and attached Tw2000 document New Aircraft Supplement Re: New Aircraft Supplement 1st edittion armour conversion RPA and n/a handbook The Bundeswehr Re: The Bundeswehr Re: The Bundeswehr Re: The Bundeswehr Re: The Bundeswehr Re: The Bundeswehr Re: The Bundeswehr Re: The Bundeswehr New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:05:01 -0500 (EST) From: KAPPAABZ@aol.com Subject: Re: Aircraft In a message dated 97-11-21 06:34:16 EST, you write: > "Aviation Supplement" to fill in the > gaps left by the original Handbook -- if interested, let me know. I am interested. Didn't the title of the book say nautical and aviation? MAybe some of the squids on the list could start giving us some stats from the naval end of things. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:56:56 -0500 (EST) From: KAPPAABZ@aol.com Subject: Re: Blackhawk Stats In a message dated 97-11-18 04:02:49 EST, you write: > I'm not sure who started the idea, but Kappaabz is collecting all the data... > KAPPAABZ@aol.com Roger that. I just got my phone hooked up and am still unpacking, so give me a few more days...... Thanks for your patience, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:31:28 -0500 From: Matt Aistrich Subject: Re: Rules collection Peter Vieth wrote: > I was in the process of shortening the rules (I've taken most of the 2nd > edition rule book, with the exception of the fatigue rules and the ship > rules). The whole thing is like 5 pages long so far-- its useful to > have. > I've attached whats done, in Word 6 format. Peter, The "rules collection" is excellent -- please send the finished version to the list as well, when you get done with it! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:52:51 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Callahan Subject: boats (was: Re: Aircraft) Greetings All: On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 KAPPAABZ@aol.com wrote: > > Didn't the title of the book say nautical and aviation? > MAybe some of the squids on the list could start giving us some stats from > the naval end of things. I second that. When I was trying to come up with stats for the various PBRs for the adventures I wrote, it was fairly difficult trying to extrapolate from the stats given for the big *three* boats (or however few there are). I would love to see more watercraft stats. What I came up with is at: http://www.techrefuge.com/hector/canalquip.html (Watch out, when I put the stuff up back in April, I included some ridiculously large graphics. I have not yet remedied this. If you have any other suggestions/corrections, let me know). - -C ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:09:43 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: Aircraft Peter, Thanks for the attachment and the feedback. I will gat to work typing up the aircraft combat rules and stats on the indicated aircraft ASAP. I apologize for any delays; as I said the only time I have access to E-Mail is here at school ! ~Cbrody Peter Vieth wrote: > > Actually I'd like to know the stats for the Mi-24, AH-1, CH-46 Chinook, > and Apache if they're in there. Attack aircraft like the A-10 would be > useful too, but type up as many as you want to. I could probably make up > the stats for the helos if I had two of them. > Yes, I would be interested in the Aviation Supplement. > I was in the process of shortening the rules (I've taken most of the 2nd > edition rule book, with the exception of the fatigue rules and the ship > rules). The whole thing is like 5 pages long so far-- its useful to > have. > I've attached whats done, in Word 6 format. > > -- > Peter Vieth > Fitek@ix.netcom.com, Fitek@geocities.com > IGZ Handle: Fitek > ICQ UIN: 3660410 > Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html > Apocalypse Software E-mail: Apocalypsesw@rocketmail.com > Apocalypse Software web page: http://www.keast.com/apocalypse > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Name: t2000.doc > Part 1.2 Type: application/msword > Encoding: base64 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:45:16 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: Aircraft KAPPAABZ@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-11-21 06:34:16 EST, you write: > > > "Aviation Supplement" to fill in the > > gaps left by the original Handbook -- if interested, let me know. > > I am interested. > > Didn't the title of the book say nautical and aviation? > MAybe some of the squids on the list could start giving us some stats from > the naval end of things. Indeed, the title of the book is _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_ ... I have neglected the Nautical vehicles because I don't usually use watercraft in my campaigns and the exsisting rules and examples are acceptable for my usage. In any case, when I begin work on any future aircrafts, I will put them on the list so that all can be informed. ~Cbrody ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:40:42 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: Aircraft Peter Vieth wrote: > > Actually I'd like to know the stats for the Mi-24, AH-1, CH-46 Chinook, > and Apache if they're in there. Attack aircraft like the A-10 would be > useful too, but type up as many as you want to. I could probably make up > the stats for the helos if I had two of them. > Yes, I would be interested in the Aviation Supplement. > I was in the process of shortening the rules (I've taken most of the 2nd > edition rule book, with the exception of the fatigue rules and the ship > rules). The whole thing is like 5 pages long so far-- its useful to > have. > I've attached whats done, in Word 6 format. > > -- > Peter Vieth Peter, Here are the rules for aircraft combat as they appear in the _Nautical / Aviation Handbook_. I will send as much as I can (time allowing or until I go blind from starring at this screen). So, here you go: AIRCRAFT DAMMGE like human targets, aircraft in Twilight: 2000 have various hit locations. When a hit is scored on an aircraft, damage is dtermined by a series of steps. First, the level of damage (minor or major) is determined by the size of the gun firing or the degree of success of the missile attack role. Second, a roll is made for hit location on the Vehicle Hit Location table. Third, a roll is made on the appropriate damage severity table, and the resulting damage is applied. HIT LOCATIONS When a hit is scored on an aircraft, a 1D6 roll must be made to determine where it impacted. One point is added too the die roll if the shot was made against the aircraft's side. The final result is then compared to the table below, to determine exact hit location. Those locations are explained as follows: Fuselage: This reflects a hit upon the main body of the vehicle - an aircraft's fuselage. Wing/Rotr: In the case of rotary-wing craft, this indicates a hit upon the rotor. On all other aircraft, it is a hit upon one wing. DAMAGE RESOLUTION When firing at aircraft, all automatic small arms weapons cause minor damage when they hit, while all larger caliber automatic weapons cause major damage. When firing missiles, a successful task role indicates that the target aircraft suffers minor damage, while an outstanding success role indicates major damage. VEHICLE HIT LOCATIONS TABLE Aerospace Die Roll* Result 1 Wing/Rotor 2 Wing/Rotor 3 Wing/Rotor 4 Fuselage 5 Fuselage 6 Fuselage 7 Fuselage *+1 to die roll for side shots AEROSPACE CRAFT DAMAGE Fuselage Minor Die Result 1 1 Crewmember 2 Controls 3 Controls 4 2 Passengers* 5 Radio 6 Major Fuselage *2 passengers becomes 1 crewmember hit if this is not a passenger-carrying vehicle. If it is a passenger carrying vehicle but no passengers are present, the hit has no effect. Cargo destroyed may be substituted for this result at the referee's discretion. Fuselage Major Die Result 1 Engine 2 Engine 3 Instruments 4 Instruments 5 Weapon/Ammo 6 Minor wing/rotor Wing/Rotor Minor Die Results 1 No effect 2 No effect 3 Controls 4 Controls 5 Controls 6 Major wing Wing/Rotor Major Die Result 1 Controls 2 Fuel 3 Fuel 4 Fuel 5 Fuel 6 Fireball DAMAGE IMPLEMENTATION Locate the damage table corresponding to the target vehicle's configuration. Find the correct section (minor or major damage, fuselage or wing/rotor damage) and roll a 1D6 once for each required damage result. The following results are possible: 1 Crewmember: Which crewmember is hit is dtermined randomly. The crewmember suffers 1D6 hits, each of which does 1D6 damage. Determine hit locations seperately for each hit. If the target is in an aircraft with an armored cockpit the hit was inflicted by a ground-based weapon (either gun or missile), ignore the result. 2 Passengers: Two passengers are selected at random and are hit exactly as noted above. if this id not a passenger-carrying aircraft, then this is treated as a "1 Crewmember" hit. If this is a passenger-carrying vehicle, but no passengers are present, this becomes a "No Effect". Radio: The vehicle's radio is destroyed. Weapon/Ammo: The vehicle's main weapon (or main weapon still functional) is damaged and can no longer fire. On a 1D10 roll of 10, any explosive ordnance carried is hit and explodes. Engine: The engine (or engines) is hit and damaged enough to render the aircraft incapable of sustaining altitude. The aircraft will immediately begin to descend at a rate of one band per minute. Helicopters autogyro directly down, while fixed-wing aircraft glide. Landing safely is a Difficult skill role, with failure damaging the craft beyond repair and a catastrophic failure indicating a crash. Fuel: The fuel tank of the aircraft has been hit. Roll 1D6x10 to determine the percentage of fuel capacity lost. No Effect: The round passes through the aircraft's wing and has no serious effect. Controls: The control surfaces and/or connections are damaged, making the craft more difficult to control. All pilot skill checks become one level more difficult. Instruments: The craft's instrument panel is damaged and its instruments begin to fail. The pilot must make an Average task role to avoid a mishap at the start of each subsequent combat turn. Additional damage results to the instruments raise these additional difficulty levels. Fireball: The craft explodes in flame, destroying everyone and everything inside. Characters must make a Difficult: Agility roll in order to escape the aircraft (including characters in ejection seats as the damage is sudden and unexpected). Failure means that they escape with 1D6 burn injuries (distribted randomly amoung the character's body locations). Catastrophic failure means that they are killed. If a character escapes and has a parachute, the character may then make a normal parachute descent (unless injuries render the character unconscious). Characters escaping without parachutes are killed. NOTE: Some rolled results convert the damage to a different type. For example, if a minor fuselage hit is achieved against an aircraft, but a 6 is rolled on the damage table, the hit is converted into a major fuselage hit. In this case roll again on the Fuselage Major subtable of the Aerospace Craft Damage Table. If a 6 is rolled on that table, the damage is converted to a minor wing/rotor hit. If a 6 is then rolled on that table, it is converted to major wing/rotor hit. There is no possibility of any alteration to a major wing/rotor hit. Well, there are the Aircraft damage rules directly from the _Handbook_. Should you have any questions or need further info, let me know. I will get the stats on those Helos and the A-10 to you as time permits. Hope this helps! ~Cbrody ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:36:55 -0500 (EST) From: OrrinLadd@aol.com Subject: Military Police OB hello, Can anyone tell me what the order of battle for an Army Military Police brigade is? Specifically, I'm trying to find out to what extent the military police are/were equipped with the M750 (Commando V-350). Along the same lines, I'm also trying to find out how many M750's and Peacekeeper armored cars are in Airforce Security Squadrons. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:36:52 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: Aircraft Peter Vieth wrote: > > Actually I'd like to know the stats for the Mi-24, AH-1, CH-46 Chinook, > and Apache if they're in there. Attack aircraft like the A-10 would be > useful too Peter, Hello. Here are the rules and stats for the aircraft you requested. If you have questions or comments, let me know. Otherwise, enjoy: Mi-24 Hind (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) The Mi-24 was code-named Hind by NATO, and was the main Soviet attack helicopter from its introduction in 1975 until it was superseded by the Havoc in the 1980s. The Hind is probably the most combat-expierenced helicopter gunship in the world, having seen extensive action in Afghanistan, Iran/Iraq, and in Soviet Central Asia. The Hind can carry up to four 500-liter drop tanks to extend its acion radius, at the expense of ordnance. Up to 12 ATGMs plus two AAMs or bombs (not exceeding 1500 kilograms) can be fitted as external load. No ejection seats are provided, and the aircraft is incapable of in-flight refueling. A 1500-kilogram, flexible fuel tank or passengers can be carried at the expense of internal load. Merc: 2000 Price: $950,000 (-/C) Twilight: 2000 Price: $ 1,200,000 (-/C) Armament: 12.7mm-4 MG in nose mount, up to 1500kg of ordnance on [six] wing racks. Ammo: 500x12.7mmB Fuel Type: AvG Load: 1ton (internal) or 1500kg on 6 hardpoints Veh Wt: 12tons Crew: 3+8 Mnt: 10 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 40m Combat Equipment: IR Suppression, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons Operator O, Ground engineer O Passengers: 1O 2O 3O 4O 5O 6O 7O 8O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 12.7mm-4 Gun: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1180 Com Mov: 32 Fuel Cap: 1500 Fuel Cons: 1500 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Dam Pen Blk Mag SS Brst Rng 12.7mm-4 MG 50 9 2-2-3 8 * + + 150 *Varies with installation (in this case 500B) +Weapon has negligible recoil when used in this way. NOTE: In the original _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_, the Mi-24 was shown armed with a single-barreled 12.7mm MG. the only Hid to use this type of gun was the Hind-A model which went out of service in the early-80s. Later models of the Hind gunship were armed with the 4-barreled, Gatling-type machine gun shown here. AH-1 "Cobra" (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) The AH-1 series of attack helicopters was mabe famous during Vietnam, and are still in service with many nations, including the U.S. Army and Marines. No ejection seats are provided, and the aircraft is not capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $4,800,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $ 9,600,000 (R/-) Armament: M197 20mm or 30mm chin turret Ammo: Various, depending on armament Fuel Type: AvG Load: Eight TOW missiles or four 2.75" rocket pods, or four TOW and two pods Veh Wt: 9.5tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 12 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 40m Combat Equipment: Armored cockpit, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O M197 Turret Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 726 Com Mov: 23 Fuel Cap: 290 Fuel Cons: 390 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Dam Pen M197 20mm 30 1200 250 API 10 3/-2/-5 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C M197 30mm 30 1100 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C CH-47 Chinook (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) The CH-47 Chinook is the US armed forces standard medium-lift helicopter and is also found in service with many other nations in both military and civilian versions. There are two doors to the cabin (P/S) and a rear cargo ramp. The helicopter is capable of water landings without special floatation equipment and has an integral hydraulic rescue winch and cargo hooks for slung loads. An extended-range version of the CH-47 is available (at 20% additional cost). MH-47E is the designation of the US Army special operations version, with one .50 MG per side (two total) and an M60 door gun at the rear ramp, expanded fuel tanks, special navigation and night vision radar, FLIR, provision for ATA refueling, and buddy system refueling. No ejection seats are provided. Merc: 2000 CH-47 Price: $16,000,000 (S/C), MH-47E Price: $24,000,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 CH-47 Price: $32,000,000 (R/-), MH-47E Price: $48,000,000 (-/-) Armament (MH-47E): 2xM2HB MG (P/S), M60 MG (rear) Ammo (MH-47E): 1100x.50 BMG, 2000x7.62mmN Fuel Type: AvG Load: 11tons (no more than 7 internal) Veh Wt: 20tons Crew: 3+55 (33 if paratroopers)(CH-47), 5+55 (33 if paratroopers)(MH-47E) Mnt: 12 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 12 Combat Equipment: None normally fitted (CH-47). MH-47E has FLIR, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers (CH-47): Pilot O, Copilot O, Crew chief/Jump master O Crewmwmbers (MH-47E): Pilot O, Copilot O, Gunner1 O, Gunner2 O, Crew chief/Gunner3 O Passengers: 1O 2O 3O 4O 5O 6O 7O 8O 9O 10O 11O 12O 13O 14O 15O 16O 17O 18O 19O 20O 21O 22O 23O 24O 25O 26O 27O 28O 29O 30O 31O 32O 33O 34O 35O 36O 37O 38O 39O 40O 41O 42O 43O 44O 45O 46O 47O 48O 49O 50O 51O 52O 53O 54O 55O Paratroops: 1O 2O 3O 4O 5O 6O 7O 8O 9O 10O 11O 12O 13O 14O 15O 16O 17O 18O 19O 20O 21O 22O 23O 24O 25O 26O 27O 28O 29O 30O 31O 32O 33O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O M2HB MG (P): O M2HB MG (S): O M60 MG: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 986 Com Mov: 30 Fuel Cap: 3900 (Extended Range: 7830) Fuel Cons: 1600 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Dam Pen Blk Mag SS Brst Rng M2HB door gun 5 8 2-2-3* 8 105B 2 7 150 M60 door gun 5 4 2-3-N 6 100B 1 1 125 *.50-caliber SLAP ammunition has a penetration of 1-1-2 AH-64 Apache (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) The AH-64 Apache was the US Army's supreme attack helicopter, and will not be completely replaced by the RAH-66, since the latter is built for more specialized missions. The helicopter can be armed with up to 16 Hellfire ATGMs (four per hardpoint) or FFAR pods (one pod per hardpoint, FFAR-7 or FFAR-19). Some models can mount up to two Sidewinders (don't count against hardpoints). No ejection seats are provided, and the aircraft is not capable of inflight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $12,600,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $25,000,000 (S/-) Armament: One 30mm autocannon in remote foward mount Ammo: 1200x30mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: see description Veh Wt: 8tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 14 Night Vision: Thermal imaging, image intensifier Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 48m Combat Equipment: Armored cockpit, FLIR, integral flare and chaff dispensers, IR suppression, laser designator. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 30mm AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1172 Com Mov: 36 Fuel Cap: 1420 Fuel Cons: 1420 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mm AC 10 1200C 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen FFAR-7 12 7/19 425 HE C:8, B:28 -4C WP C:2, B:20 Nil APERS C:8, B:36 -2C NOTE: In the _Nautical/Avation Handbook_, the Apache is shown as being armed with a triple-barreled 30mm autocannon in its remote foward mount. In reality, this weapon is a single-barreled 30mm chain gun (autocannon), and the stats presented here have been changed to reflect this point. A-10 Thunderbolt II (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) An American ground attack aircraft, and one of the ugliest aircraft ever to fly, the A-10 was nicknamed "Warthog" shortly after it entered service. It acquired a great reputation as a tank-busting and geveral ground attack platform during the Second Persian Gulf War of 1991, and was the subject of a short custody battle btween the US Army and the US Air Force (the latter finally emerging with control). The A-10 is capable of in-flight refueling, but no buddy refueling. It can carry extra fuel in external drop tanks at the expense of some of its bomb load (one or more 1800-kilogram drop tanks are available). In addition to the normalarray of pods and bombs, the A-10 can carry one or two AIM-9L Sidewinder AAMs. Pilot has ejection seat. Merc: 2000 Price: $14,000,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $26,000,000 (-/-) Armament: One fixed GAU-8 30mmG Gatling autocannon (internal) Ammo: 1174x30mmG Fuel Type: AvG Load: 6500kg on 11 hardpoints (external only) Veh Wt: 14.8tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 14 Runway Type: primative Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 440/400m Combat Equipment: Armored cockpit, radar gun sight, internal flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O GAU-8 30mm AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 2220 Com Mov: 82 (15) Fuel Cap: 4850 Fuel Cons: 4850 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mmG 135 1174C 450 API(DU) 14 18/12/5 450 HEI C:2, B:3 -2C Missile Rng Guidance Acc. Level AIM-9L Sidewinder 18km Radar Average Su-25 Frogfoot (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The Su-25 is a purpose-built ground attack aircraft built (some feel) in imitation of the American A-10 "Warthog". Merc: 2000 Price: $1,750,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $2,750,000 (-/R) Armament: One fixed 23mm-2 autocannon Ammo: 250x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 9700kg on 8 hardpoints Veh Wt: 16tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 10 Runway Type: Primitive Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 1200/600m Combat Equipment: Armored cockpit, radar gun sight, integral chaff and flare dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm-2 AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 2800 Com Mov: 98 (20) Fuel Cap: 4550 Fuel Cons: 6000 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm-2 20 250 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C NOTE: In the _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_, the Su-25 is shown armed with a tripled-barreled 30mm autocannon. In reality, the Su-25 is armed with a double-barreled 23mm autocannon, and the stats given here have been changed to reflect this. F-111 Aardvark (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The F-111 is an American, variable-wing geometry (swing-wing), medium bomber which is serving with the US Air Force. Both crewmembers have ejection seats, and the aircraft is capable of inflight refueling. One 1800-kilogram drop tank may be fitted at the expense of bomb load. Merc: 2000 Price: $67,000,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $133,000,000 (-/-) Armament: One fixed 20mm Vulcan autocannon Ammo: 2084x20mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 8000kg in 4 hardpoints Veh Wt: 36tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 14 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 1400/1104m Combat Equipment: FLIR, laser designator, radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 20mm Vulcan AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 2008 Com Mov: 78 (26) Fuel Cap: 15,000 Fuel Cons: 15,000 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 20mm Vulcan 60 2084C 250 API 10 3/-2/-5 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C F-15E Strike Eagle (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The Strike Eagle is a heavilly reworked ground attack version of the F-15 fighter, but retains most of its capability as an air-to-air fighter. The F-15E can have up to three 2400-kilogram external drop tanks (at the expense of external load). Both crewmwmbers have ejection seats, and the aircraft is capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $36,000,000 (-/-) Twilight: 2000 Price: $72,000,000 (-/-) Armament: One fixed 20mm Vulcan autocannon Ammo: 950x20mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 10,000kg in 9 hardpoints Veh Wt: 20.2tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 12 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 280/1056m Combat Equipment: FLIR, radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 20mm Vulcan AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 3920 Com Mov: 148 (46) Fuel Cap: 13,328 Fuel Cons: 10,100 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 20mm Vulcan 60 950C 250 API 10 3/-2/-5 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:13:55 -0800 From: Peter Vieth Subject: Re: Aircraft and attached Tw2000 document Thanks for the aircraft, Chris. As for the attached document, I have converted it to HTML and put it up at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/2946/t2000.html I'll try and finish it by the weekend after Thanksgiving. - -- Peter Vieth Fitek@ix.netcom.com, Fitek@geocities.com IGZ Handle: Fitek ICQ UIN: 3660410 Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html Apocalypse Software E-mail: Apocalypsesw@rocketmail.com Apocalypse Software web page: http://www.keast.com/apocalypse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 23:08:51 -0500 (EST) From: KAPPAABZ@aol.com Subject: Re: Military Police OB In a message dated 97-11-25 16:50:24 EST, you write: > hello, > > Can anyone tell me what the order of battle for an Army Military Police > brigade is? MP's, eh? Hmm...... Well, on the brigade level, MP's are usually diced up and assigned to individual divisions (or corp HQ units) in company sized elements. There are generally 4 line platoons (meaning 4 platoons of MPs as opposed to the HQ platoon and its attachments). Some divisions have 2 MP companies (one being a reserve MP unit attached to the MP brigade or parent division/corp unit for the duration of said conflict. That's all assuming you're talking about combat support MP companies, there are EPW units as well. > Specifically, I'm trying to find out to what extent the > military police are/were equipped with the M750 Um........I never saw any armored cars that we were using (according to T2000). HMMV's are the main mode of transportation, with trailers, Deuce-and-a-halfs, and a few CUCV's (army blazers). As far as the OOB, in general terms, a combat support MP comany is as follows: 3-4 line platoons and an HQ element. line plts have 3 squads of 10 men (and unfortunately women-but that is another tale). each squad has 3 teams. each team has: a HMMV and driver w/M16, an M-60 gunner, and a team leader w/M16/203. Each team is given enough supplies (food and H2O) to last them a few days or even a week or 2. as far as Air security.......no clue. Chris Stainton, former MP, 82nd Airborne Division ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:00:36 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: Aircraft and attached Tw2000 document Peter Vieth wrote: > > Thanks for the aircraft, Chris. > > As for the attached document, I have converted it to HTML and put it up > at > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/2946/t2000.html > > I'll try and finish it by the weekend after Thanksgiving. Peter, Thank you for the update! I look foward to seeing your rules when they are complete. ~Cbrody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:28:19 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: New Aircraft Supplement Dear List, As previously mentioned, I have begun putting togeather a collection of aircraft not covered in the original _Nautical/Aviation Handbook_ released by GDW. I am putting the aircraft in a similar format to those presented in the original TW2000 book. The aircraft I have selected are mainly those in common usage in modern military forces. Also, I am trying to include aircraft that can be used realistically in either Twilight: 2000 or Merc: 2000 to accomadate players of either setting. I am posting this Aircraft Supplement on the list because I have already had some interest expressed in it, and besides, we can always use more new equipment, right?!! In any case, I will post the aircraft as I create the stats for them, and try to keep the entries as close to alphabetical order as possible. If I should miss an aircraft that you would like to use in your campaign, please let me know and I will get the information out ASAP. If anyone has any comments, suggestions or questions about my supplement, feel free to contact me any time. Here I will include the first entry into the supplement. Enjoy! ~Cbrody Aero L39 Albatros (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The Albatros is a small ground attack and tactical reconnaissance aircraft from Czehoslovakia. It is in the service of numerous air forces, including Afghanistan, Algeria, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Cuba, East Germany, Ethiopia, Iraq, Libya, Nigeria, Romania, Syria, the USSR, and Vietnam. The aircraft carries a 23mm GSh-23L two-barreled cannon underneath its fuselage and can carry two drop tanks at the expense of ordnance. The crew are provided with ejection seats. Merc: 2000 Price: $1,500,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $3,000,000 (-/R) Armament: One fixed 23mm-2 autocannon Ammo: 150x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 1100kg on 4 hardpoints Veh Wt: 3.8tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 10 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 760/496m Combat Equipment: Integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm-2 AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 928 Com Mov: 23 (11) Fuel Cap: 1700 Fuel Cons: 1700 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm-2 GSh 20 150C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:39:31 -0800 From: Hale Subject: Re: New Aircraft Supplement Chris Brody wrote: > If I should miss an aircraft that you > would like to use in your campaign, please let me know and I will get > the information out ASAP. If anyone has any comments, suggestions or > questions about my supplement, feel free to contact me any time. Here I > will include the first entry into the supplement. Enjoy! Well since you asked, I could use the stats for any and all WWI & WWII aircraft. Thankz in advance. TTFN Ron Hale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:07:08 -0800 From: Saul Basgen Subject: 1st edittion armour conversion Hello everyone, A reader has asked me how to convert armour from first edition to second. I've parted with my first edition books ages ago, and quite frankly don't even remember what the difference was. If anyone has info on this, please let me know. Saul - ---- http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:35:52 -0800 From: Peter Vieth Subject: RPA and n/a handbook http://members.tripod.com/~Fitek/rpa.zip I wrote two program for Twilight: 2000 several years ago and called them part of this RPA (Role-Playing Assitant) thing. Just run rpa.exe to create NPCs and encounters. Note that when an encounter is with a military unit there are a bunch of letters on the screen-- this was an attempt to map out the encounter, but I usually disregard it. The map is pretty obvious, N for Novice, E for experienced, and so on. Vehicles are sometimes shown (and extra vehicles show up from time to time, this is a bug). The aircraft encounters are pretty dumb, but interesting anyway. You will see several lines of stuff like: x2 AAMs 4x100KG bomb Each line is for a seperate aircraft. Hey Chris, could you also put the stats for the Mi-28 Havoc up? I didn't realize that it was already in service. - -- Peter Vieth Fitek@ix.netcom.com IGZ Handle: Fitek ICQ UIN: 3660410 Web page: http://www.netcom.com/~Fitek/index.html Apocalypse Software E-mail: Apocalypsesw@rocketmail.com Apocalypse Software web page: http://www.keast.com/apocalypse ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 01:50:16 -0800 From: Saul Basgen Subject: The Bundeswehr Does anyone know what the Bundeswehr of the German Republic are? Thanks. Saul - ---- http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:27:30 +0000 From: Roger Stenning Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr At 01:50 29/11/97 -0800, you wrote: > > Does anyone know what the Bundeswehr of the German Republic are? Thanks. > >Saul > >---- >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html > > > "Bund" translates to 'bunch' or 'bundle';suffixed with 'es' kakes it plural, thus "Bundes" is a collection of things. "Wehr" translates to 'defence', 'weapon', or 'protection' So I tend to think you'll find "Bundeswehr" translates (VERY roughly) to defence forces of the republic, kind of like a collective term for the Army, Airforce, Navy, and Marines. Hope that helped. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 05:06:09 -0800 From: "Mad Mike" Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr - ---------- > From: Saul Basgen > To: twilight2000@MPGN.COM > Subject: The Bundeswehr > Date: Saturday, November 29, 1997 1:50 AM > > > Does anyone know what the Bundeswehr of the German Republic are? Thanks. Bundeswehr- German armed forces consisting of Das Heer- the army, Die Luftwaffe- the air force, and the Die Marine/Bundesmarine (or is das?). Mad Mike "May God bless your bayonets that they may penetrate deep into the entrails of your enemies. May the Almighty in His great righteousness direct your artillery fire upon the heads of the enemy staffs. Merciful God, grant that all our enemies may be stifled amid their own blood, from the wounds which we inflict upon them."- Geza Szatmur Budafal, Archbishop of Budapest, "The Good Soldier Schweik" by Jaroslav Hacek ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:40:03 -0500 From: Matt Aistrich Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr Roger Stenning wrote: > "Bund" translates to 'bunch' or 'bundle';suffixed with 'es' kakes it > plural, thus "Bundes" is a collection of things. Very good, although it is more straightforward than that. Bundes is simply Federal. Bundesrepublick Deutschland is the Federal Republic of Germany. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 17:42:48 -0800 From: Saul Basgen Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr Thanks for the replies Roger, Mike and Matt. Much appreciated, and helpful. Saul - ---- http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:43:53 +0000 From: Roger Stenning Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr At 17:42 29/11/97 -0800, you wrote: > > Thanks for the replies Roger, Mike and Matt. Much appreciated, and helpful. > >Saul > >---- >http://www.seattleu.edu/~musides/Soviet.html > You're very welcome. Glad to be of help! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 10:46:30 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr Saul Basgen wrote: > > Does anyone know what the Bundeswehr of the German Republic are? Thanks. > > Saul > Saul, Do you need any further information on the Bundeswehr, such as Order of Battle, equipment make up, etc. ... ? ~Cbrody ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:37:37 -0800 (PST) From: Saul Basgen Subject: Re: The Bundeswehr No I don't, but thanks for the offer. Saul > Saul, > Do you need any further information on the Bundeswehr, such as Order of > Battle, equipment make up, etc. ... ? > ~Cbrody > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 14:22:48 -0800 From: Chris Brody Subject: New Aircraft Supplement Part 2 For all those interested, I am presenting the second part in my Aircarfat Supplement. As time allowss here at school, I will be posting further parts until this Supplement is complete. British Aerospace Hawk (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The BAC Hawk is a versatile aircraft used by the British and other air forces including Zimbabwe, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland and South Korea. Its primary roles include trainer, tactical reconnaissance, and ground attack. It is armed with a centrally mounted 30mm Aden cannon and the crew have ejection seats. Merc: 2000 Price: $1,200,000 (R/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $2,500,000 (S/R) Armament: One fixed 30mm autocannon Ammo: 150x30mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 3000kg on 4 hardpoints Veh Wt: 9.4tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 12 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 616/744m Combat Equipment: none Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officerO Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 30mm AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1532 Com Mov: 57 (18) Fuel Cap: 1500 Fuel Cons: 1500 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mm 10 150C 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C British Aerospace Strikemaster (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The BAC Strikemaster is a small close-support and tactical reconnaissance aircraft which has seen a long service life and will continue on for sometime to come. The aircraft has a reputation for toughness and longevity. World users include Ecuador, Kenya, Kuwait, New Zealand, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Sudan and South Yemen. The pilot has an ejection seat, but the aircraft is not capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $1,500,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $3,000,000 (S/-) Armament: Two fixed 7.62mm machine guns Ammo: 1100x7.62mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 1400kg on 4 hardpoints Veh Wt: 5.75kg Crew: 1 Mnt: 10 Runway: Primitive Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 520/720m Combat Equipment: none Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 7.62mm MG 1: O 7.62mm MG 2: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1142 Com Mov: 43 (16) Fuel Cap: 1660 Fuel Cons: 1500 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Dam Pen Blk Mag SS Brst Rng 7.62mm MG 10 4 2-3-N 6 550B * * 125 *Weapon has negligible recoil when used in this role Dassault Mirage 2000 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) A modern French fighter / attack aircraft, the Mirage 2000 is the next generation fighter following the Mirage F1-series. It is armed with two 30mm DEFA 554 cannons and can carry numerous types of pods or ordnance on 9 underwing pylons. The pilot has an ejection seat and the aircraft is capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $25,000,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $50,000,000 (R/-) Armament: Two fixed 30mm aurocannons Ammo: 250x30mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 6300kg on 9 hardpoints Veh Wt: 18.75tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 650/750m Combat Equipment: FLIR, radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 30mm AC 1: O 30mm AC 2: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 3452 Com Mov: 130 (49) Fuel Cap: 4600 Fuel Cons: 5900 - --------------Weapon Data--------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mm 10 125C 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C Dornier Alpha Jet (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The Alpha Jet is a small German ground-attack aircraft/anti-helicopter aircraft originally entering service in the 1970s. Since that time it has been supplied to the air forces of Turkey and Portugal. The aircraft has ejection seats for the crew, but is not capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $950,000 (-/S) Twilight: 2000 Price: $ 1,200,000 (R/-) Armament: One fixed 27mm autocannon Ammo: 200x27mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 2500kg on 5 hardpoints Veh Wt: 8.8tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 616/744m Combat Equipment: radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 27mm AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1475 Com Mov: 56 (21) Fuel Cap: 1500 Fuel Cons: 1300 - ---------------Weapon Data-------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 27mm 10 200C 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C Eurofighter EF-2000 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) Developed in the late-80s and early-90s as a joint-venture between the European nations of Germany, Italy, Spain, and the U.K. with the first eight prototypes making its first flight in 1994. The Eurofighter is and extremely agile STOL (Short Takeoff and Landing) fighter with a primary air-to-air and secondary air-to-ground role. It is a highly sophisticated aircraft that features advanced electronic systems, and ejection seat for the pilot and is capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $50,000,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $75,000,000 (-/-) Armament: One fixed 27mm autocannon Ammo: 300x27mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 6500kg on 13 hardpoints Veh Wt: 23.2tons Crew: 1 Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 616/744m Combat Equipment: FLIR, radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 27mm AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 3138 Com Mov: 118 (45) Fuel Cap: 4800 Fuel Cons: 4800 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapons ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 27mm 10 300C 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C F-14 Tomcat (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The F-14 is the U.S. Navy's variable-wing geometry (swing wing) premiere fighter-interceptor commonly operated from aircraft carriers. The aircraft is operated by a crew of two, each provided with and ejection seat and the aircraft is capable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $48,000,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $96,000,000 (R/-) Armament: One fixed 20mm Vulcan autocannon, two AIM-9L Sidewinders Ammo: 675x20mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 6600kg on 8 hardpoints Veh Wt: 37tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 14 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 1200/1040m Combat Equipment: radar gun sight, integral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 20mm Vulcan AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 2948 Com Mov: 111 (42) Fuel Cap: 12,000 Fuel Cons: 12,000 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 20mm Vulcan 60 675C 250 API 10 3/-2/-5 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C Missile Rng Guidance Acc. Level AIM-9L Sidewinder 18km Radar Average Ilyushin Il-76 (Fixed-Wing Aircraft) The Il-76 is a large, Soviet-built transport aircraft roughly equivalent in size and and payload to the American C-141. It has a large ramp in the rear and a tail turret housing twin 23mm GSh autocannons. The aircraft has been supplied to nations such as Iraq, Czechoslovakia, India, and Poland. No ejection seats are provided and the aircraft is incapable of in-flight refueling. Merc: 2000 Price: $26,000,000 (-/-) Twilight: 2000 Price: $53,000,000 (-/-) Armament: Twin 23mm autocannons in Tail Turret Ammo: 500x23mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: 40tons Veh Wt: 75tons Crew: 6+200 (or 150 paratroopers) Mnt: 12 Runway: Hardened Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 1768/1128m Combat Equipment: none Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Copilot O, Flight engineer O, Navigator O, Load master O, Gunner O Passengers: 1 O .... 200 O Paratroopers: 1 O .... 150 O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 23mm AC 1: O 23mm AC 2: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1254 Com Mov: 47 (18) Fuel Cap: 24,000 Fuel Cons: 24,000 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapons ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 23mm 10 250C 250 API 10 -2/-4/-6 250 HE C:1, B:2 -8C Kamov KA-50 Hokum (Rotary-Wing Aircraft) As successor of the Mi-24 'Hind' the Hokum is an extremely advanced, highly maneuverable close-support and air-combat helicopter. It is capable of high speeds and employs the co-axial twin rotors typical of Kamov practice. Normal weapon load consists of a 30mm 2A42 cannon as standard, which is the same used in the BMP infantry fighting vehicle, plus four multiple launchers each carrying 20 80mm rockets, two eight-round clusters of AT-9 'Whirlwind' antitank missiles, ASMs and short-range AAMs. A unique feature is tha installation of an ejector seat for the crew of two in conjunction with an explosive seperation of the two rigid rotor's six blades at the moment of seat launching. Merc: 2000 Price: $2,500,000 (-/R) Twilight: 2000 Price: $5,000,000 (-/-) Armament: One fixed 30mm autocannon Ammo: 500x30mm Fuel Type: AvG Load: see text Veh Wt: 8.25tons Crew: 2 Mnt: 10 Minimum Landing/Takeoff Zone: 40m Combat Equipment: intagral flare and chaff dispensers. Damage Record Crewmembers: Pilot O, Weapons officer O Radio: O Instruments: O Controls: O 30mm AC: O Ammo: O Engine: O Fuel (% Consumed or Destroyed): OOOOO OOOOO Tr Mov: 1348 Com Mov: 49 Fuel Cap: 1900 Fuel Cons: 3800 - ----------------------Weapon Data------------------------- Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 30mm 10 500C 250 API 16 5/1/-2 250 HE C:1, B:2 -6C Weapon ROF Mag Rng Ammo Damage Pen 80mm rocket 12 20 425 HE C:10, B:24 -2C Missle Rng Damage Pen AT-9 3500 C:12, B:12 135C ------------------------------ End of twilight2000-digest V1996 #63 ************************************